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Yeah, I was trying to tip-toe around making any edits related to WP:PIA & eventually realized how that left me with few places to edit do to how many of the sources used reference the topic :P Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 02:12, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The editing environment of the List article doesn’t look ideal. Mr. Wikipedious1 doesn’t seem to show signs of stopping the use of offensive language or making dehumanising references. I have tried my best to cooperate and keep things gentleman, but it doesn’t seem to work. May I ask if you can help me keep things under control? Thank you for your participation in editing the article and pointing out the problems I wasn’t aware of. Steven1991 (talk) 19:32, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why you're asking for my help as I've clearly been trying to, as you'd know if you'd read the talk page in full. Instead however, you seemed to brush that aside when you brought those issues to WP:AN & WP:SPI. You keep saying that you are acting polite & cooperative, but as I said at the investigation, accusing several editors of sockpuppetry on nigh-zero evidence, just because they all disagreed with your editing in some way, is about the most bad faith assumption you can make.

As I've already addressed, yes Wikipedious1 should've been more polite, something they've already acknowledged & you seem to've ignored.

I honestly feel a little insulted that, instead of accepting my attempts at mediation, you went around to other forums kicking up a fuss & only after that didn't work in your favor, you come back to me. Good faith isn't just being "polite", it's also your conduct & willingness to collaborate, discuss, & compromise. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 19:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see, but as I know, every user is allowed to request a sockpuppet investigation when there are any suspicions. It doesn’t have to do with any involvement in the editing of any articles. I can tell you that the request was not a direct consequence of any alleged disputes with any of the accounts. I don’t understand why there would be such an assumption. I am sorry that you don’t appreciate politeness as a sign of good faith – we probably have different understanding of what politeness is due to different parenting or upbringings. Have a good day. Steven1991 (talk) 20:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

nigh-zero evidence

I am sorry – this is not true, because the request was supplemented by multiple links of AI analysis results by relevant softwares, which most users are probably not aware of. I believe that having those results carries more water than those without.

something they've already acknowledged & you seem to've ignored.

No, the user is still doing it.Steven1991 (talk) 20:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They are not & I'm not sure why you think they are. I quoted their acknowledgement, which was from one of their latest edits. This comes from an even newer comment -

"As far as my edit summary, "You are in the wrong now. Respond on the talk page like a mature Wikipedian before attempting this again." Yes this is not an appropriate edit summary, it was made out of frustration. Would agree with beluga that it is not harassing nor an attack, but in all fairness it was personal and addressed to the user."

Where & in what way have they used offensive language or dehumanizing references since? Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 20:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where & in what way have they used offensive language or dehumanizing references since?

The user is still referring to me as an entity. Those messages are all over the thread of the bottom topic on the Talk page. Steven1991 (talk) 21:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again, those were before they wrote what I had quoted. You said they have continued doing so, I can't see any proof that they have made such comments since. Check the times of their comments, then you can either prove me wrong & link it here or drop the stick. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 22:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your clarification. Steven1991 (talk) 23:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Here: could you please wiki link (the banned) editors involved? Even editors who follow the IP-area, are unfamiliar with some of them. It is also interesting, wrt those who claim that socking isn't a great problem in the IP area, cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Links have now been added. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 00:03, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, when I went to tag you just now, it suggested @Butterscotch 747 and that made me wonder if your name was also a plane reference, and not the whale. If so, thats funny. Would love to see one of those one day ← Metallurgist (talk) 23:58, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, it's the whale, I don't know anything about planes. I picked it because of the alliteration & general mouthfeel when said. No real meaning behind the name beyond that.

Interesting name for a plane though. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 00:05, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Russian language page on Gaza Genocide has a section on the Israeli government's position, so why can't the English language page also have it? Without the Israeli government's position, it would be one-sided article. Queens Historian (talk) 19:39, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Israeli government's position is already covered throughout the article & should continue to be written that way. It both reads better to have data & accusations followed by dissenting perspectives & is a more fair way of presenting the Israeli government's position. Their counterarguments are properly contextualized in relevant sections, rather then being excised into an entirely separate section.

The section you added also had massive issues including, MOS:EDITORIAL (terms like "insists" & "treacherously attacked" as well as stating that Hamas "does not recognize Israel's right to exist", a vague phrase with several possible interpretations), MOS:TERRORIST, & unsourced statements or statements exclusively cited to primary sources. How other languages cover this topic is irrelevant as each project has their own distinct rules.

As this pertains to article content, if you seek to further discuss this, please do so on the article talk page. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 20:35, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Butterscotch Beluga: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Iljhgtn (talk) 18:09, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks! Happy holidays to you as well! Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 19:09, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See recent edit I tried to notify you of. NorthernWinds (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that wording seems fine to me. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 01:03, 6 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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- The online petition can be discussed with more detail to avoid false balance without reverting it.

- The 1948 Palestinian Expulsion and Flight is referred to in that way for many reasons, which are discussed in that and other articles FarFromTheMiddleEast (talk) 19:52, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I will not revert as I did not breach the 1RR: "A series of consecutive edits that undoes or manually reverses other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a single revert"

Article content should be discussed on its respective talk page, but the online petition is not a reliable source. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 20:15, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The online petition is a reliable source that there was an online petition, as are the articles about it. The other petition listed also has many non-experts. I read through the names. It was a lot of people in the medical field. I will rewrite later to reflect that both open letters / petitions contain many non-experts. FarFromTheMiddleEast (talk) 20:18, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Please limit further discussion on the matter to here, on the article talk page. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:00, 10 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The Ir David Foundation Office is not located at the visitor center they later got a contract to manage for the Jerusalem Municipality at the City of David Archaeological site. The Ir David Foundation was a preexisting foundation. Their office as on 183 Hebron Rd in West Talpiot. It's not East Jerusalem.

If you look at the entry on Google Maps (אל עיר דוד) in Hebrew means "To the City of David"

Wikipedia won't let me paste a link directly to Google Maps. FarFromTheMiddleEast (talk) 20:36, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

My edit was based on the first citation in the article's intro - The link describes the location of the "Elad Association" as "City of David 81 3514, Jerusalem", which on Google Maps is in East Jerusalem. If the location in the first citation is inaccurate, it should be replaced.

There's obviously some discrepancy going on though as Google Maps does show the address you've given as outside East Jerusalem & is at least an office building of the Ir David Foundation. Is there a way we can find out if that office building is their main HQ or just one of their corporate offices?

Unfortunately, I'm having issues finding any helpful answers on their website as the locations they describe are predominantly focused on tourist destinations, rather then their own buildings. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:23, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

So looking at their website, what appear to be Foundation type jobs / Corporate type jobs appear to be still advertised as in Talpiot.

https://cityofdavid.org.il/open-jobs/

Update: I tried clicking on the b144 map to see where they were reffering to and it gives an invalid location error. So that appears to be a mistake. Old Israeli Zip codes were 5 digits and current Zip codes are 7 digits.

FarFromTheMiddleEast (talk) 21:46, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. I self-reverted & removed the citation from the lede with the inaccurate address. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 22:43, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I added a Dun's Guide location citation. FarFromTheMiddleEast (talk) 22:48, 19 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there is a move review underway relevant to a discussion you were recently involved in. Link above. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:00, 27 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the time you took to deconstruct those diffs. Tiamut (talk) 00:36, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]