How do you get an svg signature of a musical artist from a signed album? How do you even retrieve their signature in the first place? Magic facewall (talk) 22:32, 23 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Magic facewall Do you mean make a copy? It might help to know why you should want to do this. The obvious way would be to take a photo of it. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:12, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Take a high-res photo or scan of the area of the album with the artist's signature, use any of several image editors to clean up the image, turning it into a grayscale of mostly pure white or pure black pixels, removing any accidental blotches and splotches, and finally turning it into svg format, either by using an image editor supporting this as an output format, or using any of several on-line format converters that will do this. Not all conceivable uses of the result are legal.  ​‑‑Lambiam 09:07, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Shantavira: I have no idea by what you mean by "make a copy". How can a printer copy marker written or pen written signatures on cardboard? Magic facewall (talk) 14:54, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

File:Babe Ruth sig.svg was uploaded within the last year. You could consult the uploader for more info. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:35, 24 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I must say I do wonder why we have anyone's signature in Wikipedia anyway. It adds nothing encyclopedic, is rarely authenticated with a citation, and opens the way to abuse. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:02, 25 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I've wondered that myself. It's merely decorative, at best. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:22, 25 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Today, yes, a signature is pretty trivial. I recently had to sign a bunch of stuff for legalese and it struck me how long it had been since I'd had to formally sign something. But it didn't used to be that way; your signature was like your portrait - an identifier that was uniquely you. I'm old enough (52) that when I started signing stuff as a teen I was criticized for "just writing my name" instead of properly making a signature. A young person today would be flabbergasted at such a notion - that everyone used to have a special squiggle that was all their own and people could tell with decent reliability that this squiggle was legit but that squiggle was forged. Autograph as being encyclopedic is a throwback to that state of affairs to some degree. Matt Deres (talk) 19:44, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This is the exact reason why I asked this question on the reference desk in the first place: artist verification. Magic facewall (talk) 15:01, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Shantavira: what type of abuse? Magic facewall (talk) 16:50, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably he's talking about the possibility of fraud, such as copying it to another object and trying to pass it off as genuine. Obviously, that could be done from any source, but Wikipedia should not be a party to it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:01, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The Babe Ruth sig was copied from the signed baseball, but I think this was done by drawing the outline by hand and filling it in with black. A telltale sign is that the long horizontal stroke through the t has down hooks at either end in the original, but only one at the right end in the svg. An automated method would not have missed the left down hook. Also, the horizontal stroke in the svg seems to have a kink where it crosses the downstroke of the t , while the original has a smooth and subtle bend. For comparison, here are, from top to bottom: (1) the original; (2) a black-and-white version obtained by an automated method; (3) the uploaded sig.  ​‑‑Lambiam 00:05, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

In Eclipse (Delta Goodrem song), the eclipse is all too obviously used as a sexual metaphor: "One touch, one kiss, all my life for a night like this. The world stops for us, only love exists, when we eclipse...". Here also everyone agreed. However, I failed to find an external source that would state it. The press release says an eclipse “captures the rare, breath-stealing moment when shadow and light fall into perforce harmony — a metaphor for clarity, alignment and stepping fully into your purpose”. All sources about what it means just seem to... twaddle like this. None dared to say it somewhat more clearly? --KnightMove (talk) 08:53, 29 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It's a poetical metaphor, why would you expect a clear 'official' statement about what it means? Poetry (including song lyrics) usually does not work like that, and is often intentionally ambiguous with multiple possible meanings, allowing individual recipients to make individual interpretations. To an extent it is a form of collaboration between the poet and the reader/listener, resulting in a different 'work of art' from each writer/reader pair. Sometimes this even results in interpretations that the writer had not consciously intended. In short: it's art, not science. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 12:24, 29 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I was not looking for an official statement from the creators of the song confirming the meaning - but it is very common that sources take positions on the meaning of a song. For Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, there have been many sources claiming the song is about drugs. (Nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi for a fact is about drugs, but there have been many opinions what the artists wanted to express with it. For the song in my question, I really do wonder that it is not the case. --KnightMove (talk) 14:36, 29 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

So what sort of source do you think would be reliable for the song being a sexual metaphor (I think it more a romantic metaphor), or for it commonly being taken as such? Several fans saying so? A reputable music critic? And frankly, why does it matter? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 21:41, 29 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This (unofficial) source names the encounter as "an intense romantic connection" but also mentions "attraction that is magnetic and unstoppable" and "passion", without getting more explicit. The lyrics contain some hints that the singer sees this as more than a one-night fling.  ​‑‑Lambiam 22:16, 29 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

There's also "when the two lovers are together" and "intimacy and emotional closeness" in there. However, it sounds like ChatGPT's voice to me, complete with em-dashes. Is that OK? I suppose if somebody publishes chatbot output, it then becomes their citable opinion.  Card Zero  (talk) 23:10, 29 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I asked ChatGPT, 'Is the eclipse in the lyrics of the Delta Goodrem song "Eclipse" a sexual metaphor?', and got this (entirely dashless) reply:

Probably not in any explicit or primary sense.
The available commentary from interviews, Eurovision coverage, and lyric analyses consistently describes the eclipse as a metaphor for emotional alignment, timing, and two people coming together in love. Delta Goodrem herself has reportedly framed the song around the idea of two people "aligning" like an eclipse.
The lyrics support that reading:
|   "Planets are aligning to love as one"
|   "Gravity is pulling your heart to mine"
|   "The world stops for us"
Those images emphasize destiny, connection, and a feeling that everything falls into place. Commentary on the song repeatedly interprets the eclipse as two lives briefly becoming one focal point, not as a coded sexual reference.
That said, pop lyrics often operate on multiple levels. Lines such as "One touch, one kiss / All my life for a night like this" carry romantic and sensual overtones, and listeners could reasonably hear some sexual intimacy in them. But that's different from saying the eclipse itself is a sexual metaphor.
A literary reading would be:

• Primary meaning: emotional and romantic union; two people aligning perfectly.
• Secondary implication: physical intimacy may be part of that union, since the song blends cosmic imagery with touch and kissing.
• Unlikely reading: a song whose main hidden meaning is sex. There's little evidence from the lyrics or Goodrem's comments that this was the intended focus.

So the eclipse is best understood as a metaphor for two people becoming emotionally, spiritually, and romantically aligned, with possible sensual undertones rather than a straightforward sexual metaphor.

 ​‑‑Lambiam 08:32, 30 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

OK. But the page has lots of re-worded repetition, with lots of section headers, and it does use em-dashes. Still, you seem to be making a different point, about the ways that we might expect to find sources interpreting the song. The above output is, as usual for such output, hedged and fence-sitting, and de-emphasizes its own statement physical intimacy may be part of that union. It is influenced by the same "twaddle" sources that KnightMove complained about, such as the interview with the songwriter where he says that the title was inspired by the idea of unity: Eclipse. It felt like the perfect title. Eurovision itself is about unity. Countries, cultures and languages coming together through music. It's unsurprising that he doesn't say "and then we proceeded to write a song about sex anyway". That aspect is so normal that it would be peculiar for anybody seeking to highlight the interesting aspects of the song to mention it.  Card Zero  (talk) 10:14, 30 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - letting this all sink in... --KnightMove (talk) 19:51, 30 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I was not making the point but merely reporting. Still, there is some daylight between the statements "the lyrics of the song are family-friendly but imply to the adult listener there is some hanky-panky going on" and "the title of the song is a sexual metaphor".  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:09, 31 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Surely it's about coming first? DuncanHill (talk) 20:44, 31 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That was a good one! But who knows, maybe this thought did play a role? Is the idiom "Eclipse first, the rest nowhere" used in present-day Australia? --KnightMove (talk) 04:44, 1 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

[1] can anyone please name this tune? Also have seen it on an AT&T fiber commercial. Thank you so much in advance!~2026-32216-64 (talk) 18:27, 30 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This funny song goes by the name "Funny Song".^[2]  ​‑‑Lambiam 06:56, 31 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a million!~2026-18853-76 (talk) 19:21, 31 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Composed by Thomas Hewitt Jones. DuncanHill (talk) 23:04, 1 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

A stiff upper lip is famously a quality of an English gentleman. But perhaps the two most obvious stiff upper lips in entertainment are those of Rod Serling and Humphrey Bogart, who both had a way of speaking without moving their upper lips. Do we know why they exhibited this trait? Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 23:01, 1 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

In Bogie's case, it was probably due to an injury to his upper lip. Stories vary on how he acquired a scar there:[3]

• getting hit there by a prisoner while he was serving in the Navy
• getting hit by shrapnel, also while in the Navy Clarityfiend (talk) 00:48, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has this about Serling from his paratrooper training days, which may be relevant.... " Serling and others began boxing to vent aggression. He competed as a flyweight and had 17 bouts, rising to the second round of the division finals before being knocked out. He was remembered for his Berserker style, and for "getting his nose broken in his first bout and again in the last bout". He tried his hand at the Golden Gloves, with little success." HiLo48 (talk) 04:02, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I always thought Gloria Grahame took the cake. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:46, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any association football live score site that has results from as many leagues as Soccerway used to have? Soccerway has lost functionality, and it has far fewer leagues than it once had. For example, English eighth tier was once on that site, and is not anymore. None of the other sites I have found have English eighth tier. --40bus (talk) 06:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I wish you had defined what you mean by "eighth tier", rather than leaving others to figure it out for themselves. For those interested, the structure is shown at English football league system#The system, and the correct term is levels, not tiers. When I go on this site, I get a banner link to an app which apparently has live scores. I haven't installed it myself. --Viennese Waltz 07:12, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

While 'levels' may be an official term, 'tiers' is also often used by people who discuss the 'Football pyramid'. (The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195) ~2026-27434-43 (talk) 11:20, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon. I've always wondered... Why are the opening logos shown again at the very end of movies (after credits), without any sound or animation? ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 14:08, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "opening logos"? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:59, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Production logo ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 19:26, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe they want to remind you of who produced it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:24, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Some production companies show their logo plus their theme music. Watch this nearly half-hour of Revue/Universal's various themes[4] and you may be glad they don't all do it! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:53, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The logo cards at the very end of the closing credits often come from contractual obligations. As an example, if you film in Georgia, you are likely required by contract to show the Georgia Film Commission logo somewhere in your credits. It is easiest to cram it in at the very end. Also, by doing it at the end, legal can check the last 10 seconds of the closing credits to make sure all legal requirements were met. They don't need to dig through the entire closing credits crawl to see if the logo appears somewhere. ~2026-16820-81 (talk) 11:14, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean logos on show credits nor the Georgia film commision. Selects a movie on a streaming service of your choice (or another way or even pirate it, i don't judge), fast forward to the credits and wait for their very end. ~2026-22534-68 (talk) 14:59, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Those, as well, are contracted. Assume I make a movie and Plan B produces it. My contract will likely tell me that I must include the Plan B logo in the opening and closing credits. What makes this confusing is that it is rather common for a movie to be its own separate production company. How it works: I am making a movie "The Big Hit." I tell the crew they will get a cut of profits on the backend. I make a production company called "The Big Hit" and contract to have it help with the movie. The contract says I have to put the logo at the beginning and end of the movie. The contract is written so it takes all the profits from the movie when it is released. So, the crew that is expecting money gets nothing because no matter what their percent is, a percent of nothing is nothing. So, when you see a movie have it's own name as a production company, it is really just screaming that they cut the workers out of backend profits... or, possibly, they had a valid reason to do that sort of thing, such as insurance, liability, accounting... ~2026-16820-81 (talk) 16:07, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The point being that the layout of the credits doesn't happen by accident. It's up to the contracts and various rules (a famous one being that the director gets the last entry in the opening credits). 19:50, 3 June 2026 (UTC)←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→

Compare that with actors who sometimes/often demand TOP billing. He who exalts himself shall be humbled ... -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:37, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I think the question is why contracts are designed this way, why most contracts have the logos in both the opening and ending. In solidarity, Aaron Liu (talk) 21:32, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It's effectively in three places. At the very start all the seemingly endless logos are run. Then the movie proper starts with a seemingly endless litany such as "An ABC production. A DEF release. In conjuction with GHI and JKL. In association with MNO, PQR and STU. With the support of VWX, YZA, BCD and EFG. Yada yada ... ". Then the actual story finally starts. Then they're all repeated at the end. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed with you, as the practice of repeating production logos at the conclusion of a film, which is often stripped of their signature music or animation, can certainly seem like a redundant bureaucratic holdover. The phenomenon is essentially a vestige of contractual negotiation, where production companies and financiers prioritize brand visibility at both the "head" and "tail" of the viewing experience. These requirements are frequently codified in "billing blocks" or delivery requirements, ensuring that each entity backing the film receives prominent placement in every possible segment of the final cut, regardless of how repetitive it may appear to the audience. Beyond mere marketing, these placements serve as a definitive legal checklist for studios to verify that all promotional obligations were met before the film is finalized for distribution. ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 21:22, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to track down some information about a specific person appearing in a highly famous 1980s music video.

In the video for A-ha's "Take On Me" (the iconic rotoscoped one from 1985), during the live-action live band performance scenes that intercut with the comic book world, there is a keyboardist playing a synthesizer. He is wearing glasses and has a very distinct look, but he isn't a permanent member of the band (A-ha is famously a trio: Morten Harket, Magne Furuholmen, and Pål Waaktaar-Savoy).

I've checked the standard Wikipedia article for the song and the video, but it only lists the main band members and the lead actress (Bunty Bailey).

Does anyone know the name of this session musician/actor who played the keyboardist in the video, and if he actually played on the track or was just brought in as an extra for the shoot?

Thanks in advance! ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 23:33, 3 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I've watched the official video on Youtube a few times after reading this (video ID of djV11Xbc914) and can't see a keyboard player wearing glasses. Is this an alternate video to the official one? Nanonic (talk) 01:11, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Sort of. ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 01:20, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a Youtube video ID you can give us and a timestamp? (Or a direct link if wiki allows that) Nanonic (talk) 01:26, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Nanonic Here is the link for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCtn1_nvaS0 ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 04:28, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This us just an audio track. Where's the video with the man in the glasses? ~2026-33231-98 (talk) 04:33, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I could not find one, no cap. ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 04:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

So iconic you can't find it? And what "cap"? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:22, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

There is only audio version of this, not the official one. Second questions, means to lie. ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 08:02, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"No cap" means "no lie"??? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:55, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Congrats on making it to "old", Bugs. It's all downhill from here. Matt Deres (talk) 17:43, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Where did it come from? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:27, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Baseball Bugs as a Slang word. ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

From capping, competing to outdo in the dozens (game) of exaggeration. Hence, no exaggeration.  Card Zero  (talk) ※ 21:12, 5 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Aww man... wikt:no cap In solidarity, Aaron Liu (talk) 21:25, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Aaron Liu You got that. ~2026-33106-46 (talk) 00:08, 5 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I watched the 4K version on YouTube. Man, that's a fucking good song and video! AFAICT, the only difference between it and the version I've seen a million times is that there are extended credits at the end and the sound effects are overlaid on top of the music. But there's only three members in the band in the video, just like always and just like in real life, and none of them are wearing sunglasses. I also watched the original music video from 1984 with way too much echo and overdubs and there's still nobody in shades. As others have said, the link you provided had no video, just a still picture and a somewhat not-as-good version of the song. I don't think there's much we can do without a bit more to go on.

Incidentally, if you want to learn more about that song, I highly recommend Tom Breihan's popular "The Number Ones" article here. It's an excellent column for people interested in popular music trends. Matt Deres (talk) 22:00, 4 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you're remembering someone from a different '80s music video. Could you say describe the keyboardist's distinct look beyond the fact that he was wearing glasses? --Amble (talk) 23:46, 5 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, what is the first movie to be released on the Internet? And what year did this movie released? ArcadeFair (talk) 23:42, 5 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean "released on the internet"? Can you think of an example? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:53, 5 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]