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sources, and allows for careful use of primary sources. Shortcuts WP:FRINDWP:FRIND WP:MSSWP:MSS The best sources to use when describing fringe theories, and...

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(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources available to enable an objective article to be written on the topic...

"critical", is not a WP:FRIND source establishing WP:N. And I could WP:CITE Karl-Martin Dietz, but he does not write WP:FRIND either. People who are convinced...

Randle, Leonard Stringfield, etc. with no credibility. The one and only WP:FRIND independent source [1] is a brief mention that characterizes it as "gossip...

could not be wrong so any conventional explanation must be ruled out. No WP:FRIND sources found to provide critique or analysis and help establish this topic...

FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Subject mentioned in UFO conspiracy books - but zero WP:FRIND sources. A single WP:SENSATIONal BBC story exists, but that isn't enough...

mentions of this show in the mainstream sources that are required for WP:FRIND and the fact that the programming is local cable access is a strong signifier...

6 July 2018 (UTC) Delete per nom. Couldn't find any sources that met WP:FRIND. :bloodofox: (talk) 17:07, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been...

exclusively to sources of this type to be suspect. Finally, WP:FRINGE says (at WP:FRIND) that "points ... not discussed in independent sources should not be given...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources available to establish notability. jps (talk) 13:57, 12 July 2014...

that Alcatraz haunting legends are notable. But there are not enough WP:FRIND independent sources to justify a stand alone article. Once you strip out...

scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Fails WP:BIO. Lacks WP:FRIND sources. Activity in an Internet news group and marketing blurbs about a...

need something a bit more hefty than what Roches discovered to pass the WP:FRIND-threshold, in my opinion. jps (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Keep sourcing...

on which it claims to offer relevant commentary. Per WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND, therefore, Wikipedia cannot host an article on such a subject. jps (talk)...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources available except for the cited Pravda report which is essentially...

discuss this usenet coordinator are all WP:FRINGE and thus we lack the WP:FRIND we need. jps (talk) 12:34, 4 July 2015 (UTC) Note See related: Wikipedia:Articles...

hoax and ran with it, I couldn't find any sources that adequately meet WP:FRIND. :bloodofox: (talk) 17:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been...

these instances, useful policies and guidelines include the following: WP:FRIND: "The best sources to use when describing fringe theories, and in determining...

fails our notability criterion for articles about fringe theories. (See WP:FRIND.) jps (talk) 21:46, 17 November 2014 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included...

that the sources are all WP:PRIMARY or otherwise problematic from a WP:FRIND perspective. The issue here seems to be that there isn't a lot of independent...

Aviation-related deletion discussions. 5Q5|✉ 12:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC) Delete per WP:FRIND and WP:COPYVIO. "www.cez-okno.net" contains credulous UFOlogy POV, not an...

December 2018 (UTC) Delete. Can't find any sources for it that meet WP:FRIND, unfortunately. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:07, 11 December 2018 (UTC) WEAK Delete...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources, so it fails WP:N. Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:34, 21 April 2021 (UTC)...

2019 (UTC) Delete — the article is now an advertorial. Severely lacks WP:FRIND sources. The only positive claim supported by independent sources is that...

subject, the article fails WP:FRINGE inclusion criteria. WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND require independent, reliable sources that discuss the event independent...

rectification, but as it currently stands the elements of WP:FRINGE and WP:FRIND, to name only two, are what I consider to be overwhelming. JoJo Anthrax...

19 December 2018 (UTC) The second link is to a fringe source (fails WP:FRIND; cryptozoology), can't see the former, but it doesn't seem to establish...

rules for sourcing. Notice that the sources seem to all run afoul of WP:FRIND. In looking for replacement sources for "thinkers and supporters" that were...

JSTOR · TWL) A number of pseudoscientific sources are being cited, but no WP:FRIND sources are apparently available to objectively describe this WP:FRINGE...

XOR'easter (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Delete Per all the above, plus WP:FRIND. A redirect is not needed. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 15:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources available to establish notability. jps (talk) 13:56, 12 July 2014...

Lambden (talk) 05:09, 22 December 2016 (UTC) Yes. There are not enough WP:FRIND-compliant sources. Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related...

sources (IEET, H+, SingularityHub etc) are pretty much walled-garden and WP:FRIND applies. The wider stuff is promising though - David Gerard (talk) 09:22...

implications are not the issue. If it is considered fringe, it could pass WP:FRIND, and the fact that it is fringe could be spelled out for the reader. Tgeorgescu...

what's going on with all this, I can't see how we can get past, say, WP:FRIND. :bloodofox: (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC) Comment: any outcome decided...

Channel's "My Horror Stories", Liminal Earth and Phenomenal Magazine are not WP:FRIND independent WP:RS. The Salon citation doesn't mention the subject at all...

searching, I was also only able to find fringe sources. Nothing passed WP:FRIND. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:45, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Note: This discussion has...

(talk) 19:07, 8 May 2021 (UTC) Merge to Hingol National Park. Not enough WP:FRIND sources to justify a stand alone article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:53, 8 May...

the cited sources are WP:RS. After searching, I cannot find a single WP:FRIND source to cover this topic. It's had a banner warning that it gives undue...

AFD on her book. The discussion now is bogged down in to what degree WP:FRIND applies to the reviews - David Gerard (talk) 10:19, 30 August 2016 (UTC)...

particular channeled work is relevant) text about a particular claim. WP:FRIND is intended to ask for people who aren't in the same fringe community (and...

disconnected photo images, which may or may not be a hoax. A single WP:FRIND source (passing mention of part of the story by Robert Sheaffer) is not...

WP:NFRINGE means that this is sometimes appropriate, indeed, but what WP:FRIND sources do you have that we can use to write this article? It's been languishing...

"cryptozoologist" Karl Shuker and was removed by another editor per WP:FRIND. The second, Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World, also appears to be a fringe...

nomination). Obviously not WP:FRIND. Kosmos Journal is run by the founder of Transpersonal Psychology, Nancy B. Roof. Obviously not WP:FRIND. The Futurist and World...

2022 (UTC) Delete and Redirect to time viewer. Not enough coverage in WP:FRIND sources to justify a stand alone article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 20:31, 10...

HealthyGirl (talk) 22:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC) Delete If this is notable, then WP:FRIND-compliant sources should be straightforward to locate. This doesn't seem...

primary sources, I couldn't find any sources that didn't fall foul of WP:FRIND - nobody outside its particular piece of the fringe appears to be interested...

of this bubble. There is a lack of any serious in-depth coverage in WP:FRIND sources to justify (or even create) an NPOV standalone article, but it may...

a WP:MAINSTREAM topic, it is important that Wikipedia identify some WP:FRIND notice of the topic. As far as I can tell, with the exception of one preprint...

"controversial subject" was blatant WP:SYN. The applicable guidance is at WP:FRIND. This does not reach that level. Guy (Help!) 13:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)...

reliable sources independent of the subject discussing it in detail. WP:FRIND states, quote:" In particular, the relative space that an article devotes...

and similar believer/advocates. A new article would need independent WP:FRIND sources. - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:46, 20 April 2025 (UTC) Delete. POV fork;...

GNews etc. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:01, 2 May 2015 (UTC) Delete Lack of WP:FRIND sources indicate the person has no notability outside the fringe bubble...

Slatersteven (talk) 15:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC) Delete unless a majority of WP:FRIND sources can be found to justify a stand alone article that is apart from...

reliable sources independent of the subject discussing it in detail. WP:FRIND states, quote:" In particular, the relative space that an article devotes...

promulgators thereof we have a higher sourcing and notability bar per WP:FRIND. Icewhiz (talk) 12:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC) OMG! Such scholarly peer-reviewed...

JSTOR · TWL) Fails WP:PROF and perhaps was being promoted by ideologues. WP:FRIND says we should look for independent sources and there appears to be only...

non-WP:SENSATIONal source that covers the subject, but even those are not enough WP:FRIND coverage to justify a stand alone article. The rest of the sourcing is either...

stand alone article. We need serious, in depth coverage in reliable WP:FRIND sources. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC) LuckyLouie (talk)...

sources: Pagosa Daily Post: not WP:FRIND compliant. Sunrise Health Institute: not WP:FRIND compliant. McCoy Press: not WP:FRIND compliant. Passing mention in...

remainder is WP:SYNTH derived almost entirely from sources that fail WP:FRIND. The dearth of coverage in reliable sources indicates that the topic fails...

(UTC) I don't think these reviews are "independent" in the sense of WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 16:02, 7 June 2025 (UTC) Note: Listed at Fringe theories/Noticeboard...

fiveby(zero) 14:09, 18 June 2020 (UTC) Delete I also looked in vain for some WP:FRIND source that could justify a sentence or two at Berwyn Mountain UFO incident...

would need sources that represent the mainstream point of view. See WP:FRIND. –dlthewave ☎ 14:37, 22 April 2026 (UTC) But Eberhard's book was published...

WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Seems to not be notable enough to pass WP:FRIND requirements. One source, a credulous one, documents this "phenomenon" and...

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publishers and parapsychology associations aren't applicable here. We need WP:FRIND (i.e. independent) sources for a WP:FRINGEBLP. I did find one article in...

once a pretty bad corner of Wikipedia. I just don't think we have any WP:FRIND quality sources to write a biography of this obscure professor. jps (talk)...

coverage whose primary focus is Marcus Frind. The coverage is related to his company, but it is clearly about how Frind's life experience, personality, abilities...

Dougweller (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Delete I cannot find any WP:FRIND sources for this film. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:09, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Note:...

Delete or REDIRECT to 2012_phenomenon#Other_catastrophes. Not enough WP:FRIND independent coverage to justify a stand alone article. What coverage there...

experts.) XOR'easter (talk) 21:17, 28 September 2020 (UTC) Delete Per WP:FRIND, WP:PROF, and WP:MEDRS. I was unable to locate any reliable, secondary sources...

is a cryptozoologist and not an independent source for fringe topics (WP:FRIND). :bloodofox: (talk) 23:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC) Two of those are clearly...

15 December 2015 (UTC) Two sources you list above come close to the WP:FRIND ideal: Asymmetrical Conversations and Indigenous Knowledges. In Asymmetrical...

really, truly are and that the sourcing does not rise to the required WP:FRIND levels for proper inclusion in our encyclopedia. jps (talk) 08:27, 8 June...

those who’ve died while trying to encounter the monster"). With zero WP:FRIND sources available to build an objective article with, it can only cite gushing...

of some sort that is simply hosting pages from the book. It's not a WP:FRIND source. I’ll not bludgeon the discussion further, however I urge reviewers...

besides what defines a fringe source is subjective and frankly that WP:FRIND policy is flawed , redundant , too broad, is being misued and abused by...

Velikovsky. Other than the Gordin source, all the rest of the truly close to WP:FRIND sources are just offering passing mention. jps (talk) 23:04, 24 December...

Well, I like to leave open the opportunities for others to show enough WP:FRIND-complaint sources that would change my mind. Simply positing that they exist...

2017 (UTC) delete Two of the three sources were not MEDRS and failed WP:FRIND. There is one decent source. One. There is obvious promotional pressure...

2017 (UTC) I'm sure that such theories exist and have been reviewed by WP:FRIND sources. So, would you suggest a better name? Tgeorgescu (talk) 02:30, 8...

justify a stand alone article. And sources like this are not reliable per WP:FRIND. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:45, 26 August 2022 (UTC) Keep, Expand, & Flag. It...

find independent, reliable sources reporting this fringe "event", per WP:FRIND, have failed, with all available sources failing WP:RS, being sensationalist...

WP:GNG due to lack of reliable sources discussing the subject in detail. WP:FRIND clearly explains that independent sources outside of the fringe theory is...

sources which identify this concept. If there are any that comply with WP:FRIND to the extent that it justifies a standalone article, I cannot find them...

fellow believers, but I do not find sources that rise to the level of WP:FRIND notice that we require. When you only have believers writing about you,...

September 2020 (UTC) Delete The coverage from Childress falls under WP:FRIND and that from McNeil appears to be a mention, both not satisfying WP:NBIO's...

occasionally). Abyssal (talk) 13:43, 18 August 2014 (UTC) If we apply the WP:FRIND razor to the article, are the contents of the Destination Truth episode...

trolls. Certainly they should be kept if they are legitimately notable in WP:FRIND sources. The problem is, every good-faith editor agrees we should keep these...

reliably, but instead are in fringe journals, and there does not seem to be WP:FRIND sources available to the degree we would normally wish. When academics are...

WP:NPROF among others. All sources seem to be to those non-compliant with WP:FRIND. Moreover, quite a few of them are to the subject himself. jps (talk) 21:13...

15 April 2014 (UTC) ICR and AiG are not reliable sources in terms of WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 17:34, 15 April 2014 (UTC) Redirect, possibly with a pared-down...

are not notable for Wikipedia articles. There simply isn't enough good WP:FRIND sourcing on them to establish an article. Veg Historian (talk) 21:05, 24...

of the same name. No in-depth and serious coverage by any WP:RS and WP:FRIND source. LuckyLouie (talk) 17:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC) Merge and Redirect Some...

unremarkable detail (see WP:MANDY), and unless these objections are notable in WP:FRIND sources, they don't belong in the article. At the root of many of these...

page for the movie, for pete's sake). With respect to sources that pass WP:FRIND, there are two. One is a story in the Little Rock Arkansas Democrat-Gazette...

sources and for this apparently WP:FRINGE topic we should be looking for WP:FRIND ones. Bon courage (talk) 03:27, 14 May 2026 (UTC) The article is certainly...

To be clear, I'm surprised that we cannot find sources that satisfy WP:FRIND regarding this person as he has been making noise for the better part of...

Biblical Archaeology Society (fringe group). See WP:Walled garden and WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 20:51, 21 September 2021 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been...

provided; in regards to Asia Voice Independent Music Awards nomination, I can frind no corroboration frm reliable sources - the provided link is dead, and the...

(UTC) Delete. The "sources" used here are unacceptable and this is a WP:FRIND topic that requires really solid sources. For example, claims of monster...

attested to by true believers and therefore fails our notability policy per WP:FRIND. There has been absolutely NO notice of this "syndrome" outside of the community...

gaming the system. That leaves WP:FRINGE, and I don't see evidence of WP:FRIND sources. Sławomir Biały (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2016 (UTC) *Keep. Part of...

17 August 2018 (UTC) Since only ghost hunters use the term (and our WP:FRIND sources make it clear they are commenting on the use of the term by ghost...

article. This is why the notability guideline for fringe theories includes WP:FRIND. Unlike alien abduction, there simply are no independent sources written...

remove them. They gather some negative votes from different accounts and frinds to do whatever they want in the name of law. I will continue to delete the...

the sources are independent of the fringe theory being promoted. Read WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2016 (UTC) Delete Regardless of its political...

unreliable sources like Evolution News (DI magazine) and/or do not satisfy WP:FRIND's criterion (bolded) The best sources to use when describing fringe theories...

WP:NFRINGE. jps (talk) 22:13, 13 September 2014 (UTC) As per the words from WP:FRIND, what is the "fringe theory" here?  Are you claiming that for Wikipedia...

hereditarian fringe to which Warne belongs. We should rather be looking for WP:FRIND sources to establish notability. The Critic source was discussed in the...

SOCKSTRIKE. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:04, 24 March 2018 (UTC) You know of a WP:FRIND source on the guy? jps (talk) 16:13, 13 March 2018 (UTC) A what? Prince...

This does not indicate broad coverage that we look for according to WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 21:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC) Do we prohibit articles on beetles...

free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Seems to me to violate WP:FRIND in the sense that the proposal claims a level of seriousness (a radical...

please point me to it? Paradoctor (talk) 15:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC) WP:FRIND is the relevant guideline here. "Multiple" sources that are serious and...

aliens built the pyramids. Like it or nor, UFOs are a fringe topic and WP:FRIND applies. - LuckyLouie (talk) Agreed. And I totally get that. I'm not really...

policy. I consider this to be the main reason for WP:FRIND. I gave additional reasons for WP:FRIND but they were all ignored, along with my question, "Is...

would be mostly a WP:FRINGEBLP which is fraught. There is at least one WP:FRIND source that seems relevant for the biography, but that is rather thin to...

of the fringe lore surrounding Die Glocke [1], but no WP:RS that is WP:FRIND can be cited, so it goes unmentioned in our article. - LuckyLouie (talk)...

the WP:OR determinations of "status", WP:SYNTH "categories" and non-WP:FRIND sourcing issues addressed by heavy editing to bring it into line with WP:FRINGE...

in-depth independent sources that we would look for in order to establish a WP:FRIND status of notability for this WP:FRINGEBLP. Note that the debunking websites...

astrologers [4][5], that's pretty much categorically in the face of WP:FRIND. If only astrologers are interested, then there are no independent sources...

'academic research', again referring to WP:RS (and WP:NPOV and even WP:FRIND which I tried to meet per WP:AGF but apparently failed(?) even so I still...

(UTC) I write in regard to Maelin, and his comment on this page. I wrote a frindly and polite reply to a thread but then some users appreared out of the blue...

about WP:INDEPENDENT seems bizarre as SI is often one of the bellwether WP:FRIND sources we avail ourselves of for good reason. The work that someone does...

"fringe", you obviously never read and understood WP:FRINGE/WP:FRINGE/ALT/WP:FRIND/WP:PARITY ("To maintain a neutral point of view, an idea that is not broadly...

WP:RS wherever possible, especially WP:FRINGE (especially-especially WP:FRIND). Proponents know that cryptozoologists don't agree on what a "cryptid"...

proponents (or their "fans"), we stick to reliable, independent sources (eg. WP:FRIND). None of this remotely qualifies as canvasing and appears to be an attempt...

of the same name. No in-depth and serious coverage by any WP:RS and WP:FRIND source. LuckyLouie (talk) 17:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC) Merge and Redirect Some...

promoting fringe claims). The relevant consideration is WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND which, in my estimation, make this review more than a little problematic...

implications are not the issue. If it is considered fringe, it could pass WP:FRIND, and the fact that it is fringe could be spelled out for the reader. Tgeorgescu...

of the same name. No in-depth and serious coverage by any WP:RS and WP:FRIND source. LuckyLouie (talk) 17:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC) Merge and Redirect Some...

nomination). Obviously not WP:FRIND. Kosmos Journal is run by the founder of Transpersonal Psychology, Nancy B. Roof. Obviously not WP:FRIND. The Futurist and World...

redirect to Nikolai Aleksandrovich Kozyrev#Kozyrev mirror. Even the WP:FRIND sources I could find [1] only give it a passing mention, and that's not...

sources: Pagosa Daily Post: not WP:FRIND compliant. Sunrise Health Institute: not WP:FRIND compliant. McCoy Press: not WP:FRIND compliant. Passing mention in...

19 December 2018 (UTC) The second link is to a fringe source (fails WP:FRIND; cryptozoology), can't see the former, but it doesn't seem to establish...

page for the movie, for pete's sake). With respect to sources that pass WP:FRIND, there are two. One is a story in the Little Rock Arkansas Democrat-Gazette...

together, we should not consider it notable per WP:GNG and particularly WP:FRIND and WP:PARITY. Delete per below. Katzrockso (talk) 19:56, 30 September 2025...

application of dynamite, one learns of a non-notable non-event ignored by WP:FRIND sources and reported (I should probably write "promoted") only by dubious...

that Alcatraz haunting legends are notable. But there are not enough WP:FRIND independent sources to justify a stand alone article. Once you strip out...

UFO incident notable... in particular we keep in mind WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND and look for independent, reliable sources that discuss the event independent...

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(UTC) Delete: Nothing worth keeping in the article. See WP:SYNTH and WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 02:17, 20 April 2016 (UTC) Delete Merge what info is possible...

a film and also far from an independent organization in the sense of WP:FRIND. These large blocks of text with links to real-sounding sources functions...

Basically, this boils down to WP:FRIND and its connection to WP:PROFRINGE: there are no sources out there that meet WP:FRIND for all but a handful fo these...

WP:FRIND sources arise that discuss the book in an in-depth and serious manner. - LuckyLouie (talk) 03:43, 19 November 2015 (UTC) WP:FRINGE/WP:FRIND does...

could not be wrong so any conventional explanation must be ruled out. No WP:FRIND sources found to provide critique or analysis and help establish this topic...

Optometry, which allows me to understand the area well. I do not wish to see WP:FRIND. How do I ensure other editors of the fact that all I want to see is an...

Fortunately there are policies against it, like WP:FRINGE, WP:PARITY, WP:RS, WP:FRIND, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:PSCI, WP:MEDRS, WP:NOT... And no, WP:FRINGE is not "abused"...

Slatersteven (talk) 15:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC) Delete unless a majority of WP:FRIND sources can be found to justify a stand alone article that is apart from...

that the sources are all WP:PRIMARY or otherwise problematic from a WP:FRIND perspective. The issue here seems to be that there isn't a lot of independent...

sources (IEET, H+, SingularityHub etc) are pretty much walled-garden and WP:FRIND applies. The wider stuff is promising though - David Gerard (talk) 09:22...

fellow believers, but I do not find sources that rise to the level of WP:FRIND notice that we require. When you only have believers writing about you,...

GNews etc. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:01, 2 May 2015 (UTC) Delete Lack of WP:FRIND sources indicate the person has no notability outside the fringe bubble...

market themselves as serious, so their own website is obviously not WP:FRIND. In actuality, it's classic Motte and bailey argumentation since this is...

stand alone article. We need serious, in depth coverage in reliable WP:FRIND sources. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC) LuckyLouie (talk)...

WP:GNG due to lack of reliable sources discussing the subject in detail. WP:FRIND clearly explains that independent sources outside of the fringe theory is...

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rectification, but as it currently stands the elements of WP:FRINGE and WP:FRIND, to name only two, are what I consider to be overwhelming. JoJo Anthrax...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources available except for the cited Pravda report which is essentially...

TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:46, 15 March 2015 (UTC) Keep if enough sources are found per WP:FRIND. Wikipedia has an article about flat Earth, so being fringe isn't a reason...

they are, are of the WP:SENSATIONal variety and the problem is one of WP:FRIND where the only in-depth sources which discuss Good as a person are hopelessly...

WP:NFRINGE. jps (talk) 22:13, 13 September 2014 (UTC) As per the words from WP:FRIND, what is the "fringe theory" here?  Are you claiming that for Wikipedia...

Lambden (talk) 05:09, 22 December 2016 (UTC) Yes. There are not enough WP:FRIND-compliant sources. Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related...

experts.) XOR'easter (talk) 21:17, 28 September 2020 (UTC) Delete Per WP:FRIND, WP:PROF, and WP:MEDRS. I was unable to locate any reliable, secondary sources...

would be mostly a WP:FRINGEBLP which is fraught. There is at least one WP:FRIND source that seems relevant for the biography, but that is rather thin to...

HealthyGirl (talk) 22:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC) Delete If this is notable, then WP:FRIND-compliant sources should be straightforward to locate. This doesn't seem...

JSTOR · TWL) A number of pseudoscientific sources are being cited, but no WP:FRIND sources are apparently available to objectively describe this WP:FRINGE...

17:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC) Independent of its fringe milieu (i.e. WP:FRIND). Peer review guarantees little. What I'd be expecting to find is serious/analytical...

are essentially only three sources I can find which come close to the WP:FRIND ideal, and they are not enough to pass our threshold, in my estimation....

remainder is WP:SYNTH derived almost entirely from sources that fail WP:FRIND. The dearth of coverage in reliable sources indicates that the topic fails...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources available to enable an objective article to be written on the topic...

September 2020 (UTC) Delete The coverage from Childress falls under WP:FRIND and that from McNeil appears to be a mention, both not satisfying WP:NBIO's...

exactly the case (cf. WP:FRIND, WP:FRINGE, WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE, WP:PROFRINGE, etc.). In fact, let me go ahead and quote WP:FRIND here: Points that are not...

a film and also far from an independent organization in the sense of WP:FRIND. These large blocks of text with links to real-sounding sources functions...

free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Seems to me to violate WP:FRIND in the sense that the proposal claims a level of seriousness (a radical...

FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Subject mentioned in UFO conspiracy books - but zero WP:FRIND sources. A single WP:SENSATIONal BBC story exists, but that isn't enough...

gaming the system. That leaves WP:FRINGE, and I don't see evidence of WP:FRIND sources. Sławomir Biały (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2016 (UTC) *Keep. Part of...

papers on the subject. Nor have I seen any sources which do not violate WP:FRIND or are simply news-of-the-weird compilations. jps (talk) 12:52, 19 December...

2017 (UTC) delete Two of the three sources were not MEDRS and failed WP:FRIND. There is one decent source. One. There is obvious promotional pressure...

Velikovsky. Other than the Gordin source, all the rest of the truly close to WP:FRIND sources are just offering passing mention. jps (talk) 23:04, 24 December...

JSTOR · TWL) Fails WP:PROF and perhaps was being promoted by ideologues. WP:FRIND says we should look for independent sources and there appears to be only...

fiveby(zero) 14:09, 18 June 2020 (UTC) Delete I also looked in vain for some WP:FRIND source that could justify a sentence or two at Berwyn Mountain UFO incident...

15 April 2014 (UTC) ICR and AiG are not reliable sources in terms of WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 17:34, 15 April 2014 (UTC) Redirect, possibly with a pared-down...

hoax and ran with it, I couldn't find any sources that adequately meet WP:FRIND. :bloodofox: (talk) 17:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Note: This discussion has been...

comment added by Gyms (talk • contribs) 10:53, 8 April 2019 (UTC) You'll frind translation advice at WP:Translation. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:10, 8 April...

publishers and parapsychology associations aren't applicable here. We need WP:FRIND (i.e. independent) sources for a WP:FRINGEBLP. I did find one article in...

Dougweller (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Delete I cannot find any WP:FRIND sources for this film. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:09, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Note:...

SOCKSTRIKE. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:04, 24 March 2018 (UTC) You know of a WP:FRIND source on the guy? jps (talk) 16:13, 13 March 2018 (UTC) A what? Prince...

reasons outlined by Tweedledumb2, i.e. insufficient in-depth coverage by WP:FRIND sources to justify a stand alone article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:53, 13...

WP:NFRINGE means that this is sometimes appropriate, indeed, but what WP:FRIND sources do you have that we can use to write this article? It's been languishing...

February 2010 (UTC) What about Dad's taxi? "Dad, drive me, to...., boy-frind's" etc. Famales are versatile. & Statistics do lie! You cannot depend on...

XOR'easter (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Delete Per all the above, plus WP:FRIND. A redirect is not needed. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 15:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)...

of some sort that is simply hosting pages from the book. It's not a WP:FRIND source. I’ll not bludgeon the discussion further, however I urge reviewers...

(talk) 19:07, 8 May 2021 (UTC) Merge to Hingol National Park. Not enough WP:FRIND sources to justify a stand alone article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:53, 8 May...

2022 (UTC) Delete and Redirect to time viewer. Not enough coverage in WP:FRIND sources to justify a stand alone article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 20:31, 10...

Alan Sabrosky himself on Salem-News(!) - not an acceptable source per WP:FRIND. ref14 - The Forward (a decent source) - that gives Sabrosky 14 words in...

17:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC) Independent of its fringe milieu (i.e. WP:FRIND). Peer review guarantees little. What I'd be expecting to find is serious/analytical...

December 2018 (UTC) Delete. Can't find any sources for it that meet WP:FRIND, unfortunately. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:07, 11 December 2018 (UTC) WEAK Delete...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources, so it fails WP:N. Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:34, 21 April 2021 (UTC)...

those who’ve died while trying to encounter the monster"). With zero WP:FRIND sources available to build an objective article with, it can only cite gushing...

the sources are independent of the fringe theory being promoted. Read WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2016 (UTC) Delete Regardless of its political...

reliable sources independent of the subject discussing it in detail. WP:FRIND states, quote:" In particular, the relative space that an article devotes...

Well, I like to leave open the opportunities for others to show enough WP:FRIND-complaint sources that would change my mind. Simply positing that they exist...

(books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) No WP:FRIND sources available to establish notability. jps (talk) 13:56, 12 July 2014...

2019 (UTC) Delete — the article is now an advertorial. Severely lacks WP:FRIND sources. The only positive claim supported by independent sources is that...

discuss this usenet coordinator are all WP:FRINGE and thus we lack the WP:FRIND we need. jps (talk) 12:34, 4 July 2015 (UTC) Note See related: Wikipedia:Articles...

please point me to it? Paradoctor (talk) 15:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC) WP:FRIND is the relevant guideline here. "Multiple" sources that are serious and...

promulgators thereof we have a higher sourcing and notability bar per WP:FRIND. Icewhiz (talk) 12:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC) OMG! Such scholarly peer-reviewed...

rules for sourcing. Notice that the sources seem to all run afoul of WP:FRIND. In looking for replacement sources for "thinkers and supporters" that were...

"controversial subject" was blatant WP:SYN. The applicable guidance is at WP:FRIND. This does not reach that level. Guy (Help!) 13:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)...

Alan Sabrosky himself on Salem-News(!) - not an acceptable source per WP:FRIND. ref14 - The Forward (a decent source) - that gives Sabrosky 14 words in...

searching, I was also only able to find fringe sources. Nothing passed WP:FRIND. :bloodofox: (talk) 20:45, 28 June 2018 (UTC) Note: This discussion has...

a WP:MAINSTREAM topic, it is important that Wikipedia identify some WP:FRIND notice of the topic. As far as I can tell, with the exception of one preprint...

what's going on with all this, I can't see how we can get past, say, WP:FRIND. :bloodofox: (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC) Comment: any outcome decided...

promoting fringe claims). The relevant consideration is WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND which, in my estimation, make this review more than a little problematic...

in-depth independent sources that we would look for in order to establish a WP:FRIND status of notability for this WP:FRINGEBLP. Note that the debunking websites...

need something a bit more hefty than what Roches discovered to pass the WP:FRIND-threshold, in my opinion. jps (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Keep sourcing...

occasionally). Abyssal (talk) 13:43, 18 August 2014 (UTC) If we apply the WP:FRIND razor to the article, are the contents of the Destination Truth episode...

provided; in regards to Asia Voice Independent Music Awards nomination, I can frind no corroboration frm reliable sources - the provided link is dead, and the...

Channel's "My Horror Stories", Liminal Earth and Phenomenal Magazine are not WP:FRIND independent WP:RS. The Salon citation doesn't mention the subject at all...

scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Fails WP:BIO. Lacks WP:FRIND sources. Activity in an Internet news group and marketing blurbs about a...

of this bubble. There is a lack of any serious in-depth coverage in WP:FRIND sources to justify (or even create) an NPOV standalone article, but it may...

(LoL :). You're spending waaay too much time with (one of your closest frinds on Wiki) User:Sir Floyd, Off2riorob. You're deveolping some highly biased...

find independent, reliable sources reporting this fringe "event", per WP:FRIND, have failed, with all available sources failing WP:RS, being sensationalist...

15 December 2015 (UTC) Two sources you list above come close to the WP:FRIND ideal: Asymmetrical Conversations and Indigenous Knowledges. In Asymmetrical...

on which it claims to offer relevant commentary. Per WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND, therefore, Wikipedia cannot host an article on such a subject. jps (talk)...

the WP:OR determinations of "status", WP:SYNTH "categories" and non-WP:FRIND sourcing issues addressed by heavy editing to bring it into line with WP:FRINGE...

This does not indicate broad coverage that we look for according to WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 21:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC) Do we prohibit articles on beetles...

TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:46, 15 March 2015 (UTC) Keep if enough sources are found per WP:FRIND. Wikipedia has an article about flat Earth, so being fringe isn't a reason...

discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Q1:Under WP:FRIND, is material from UFO content creators a reliable source for UFOs and adjacent...

"cryptozoologist" Karl Shuker and was removed by another editor per WP:FRIND. The second, Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World, also appears to be a fringe...

primary sources, I couldn't find any sources that didn't fall foul of WP:FRIND - nobody outside its particular piece of the fringe appears to be interested...

In short: Items that cannot be referenced with citations that meet WP:FRIND must be removed, and if removal results in, say, several items on the list...

(UTC) Delete: Nothing worth keeping in the article. See WP:SYNTH and WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 02:17, 20 April 2016 (UTC) Delete Merge what info is possible...

they are, are of the WP:SENSATIONal variety and the problem is one of WP:FRIND where the only in-depth sources which discuss Good as a person are hopelessly...

justify a stand alone article. And sources like this are not reliable per WP:FRIND. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:45, 26 August 2022 (UTC) Keep, Expand, & Flag. It...

UFO incident notable... in particular we keep in mind WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND and look for independent, reliable sources that discuss the event independent...

article. This is why the notability guideline for fringe theories includes WP:FRIND. Unlike alien abduction, there simply are no independent sources written...

fails our notability criterion for articles about fringe theories. (See WP:FRIND.) jps (talk) 21:46, 17 November 2014 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included...

WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Fails WP:NFRINGE. I find no notice of this by WP:FRIND sources. Only creationists seem interested enough to comment. Wikipedia...

about it. Using the Gouws source in particular in a way that violated WP:FRIND would be against policy. Generalrelative (talk) 14:07, 19 January 2022 (UTC)...

we balance this is not clear, so my preference is to go by reliable WP:FRIND compliant sources when we can. In this case, I find very little in the way...

papers on the subject. Nor have I seen any sources which do not violate WP:FRIND or are simply news-of-the-weird compilations. jps (talk) 12:52, 19 December...

non-WP:SENSATIONal source that covers the subject, but even those are not enough WP:FRIND coverage to justify a stand alone article. The rest of the sourcing is either...

besides what defines a fringe source is subjective and frankly that WP:FRIND policy is flawed , redundant , too broad, is being misued and abused by...

attested to by true believers and therefore fails our notability policy per WP:FRIND. There has been absolutely NO notice of this "syndrome" outside of the community...

WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Seems to not be notable enough to pass WP:FRIND requirements. One source, a credulous one, documents this "phenomenon" and...

many editorial policy problems they don’t seem to grasp, e.g.WP:FRINGE, WP:FRIND, WP:NPOV, WP:SYNTH, WP:AND, WP:SOAPBOX, WP:POVFORK etc. and the “ufology...

many editorial policy problems they don’t seem to grasp, e.g.WP:FRINGE, WP:FRIND, WP:NPOV, WP:SYNTH, WP:AND, WP:SOAPBOX, WP:POVFORK etc. and the “ufology...

Such a rewrite could be easily assembled and cited to a mixture of WP:FRIND media [10], [11], [12], [13] and WP:PARITY skeptical sources [14], [15]...

subject, the article fails WP:FRINGE inclusion criteria. WP:NFRINGE and WP:FRIND require independent, reliable sources that discuss the event independent...

Aviation-related deletion discussions. 5Q5|✉ 12:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC) Delete per WP:FRIND and WP:COPYVIO. "www.cez-okno.net" contains credulous UFOlogy POV, not an...

is that reliable sources on this topic in fact do exist (thus meeting WP:FRIND), but they tell a very different story than the current article does. It...

reasons outlined by Tweedledumb2, i.e. insufficient in-depth coverage by WP:FRIND sources to justify a stand alone article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:53, 13...

Randle, Leonard Stringfield, etc. with no credibility. The one and only WP:FRIND independent source [16] is a brief mention that characterizes it as "gossip...

aliens built the pyramids. Like it or nor, UFOs are a fringe topic and WP:FRIND applies. - LuckyLouie (talk) Agreed. And I totally get that. I'm not really...

Delete or REDIRECT to 2012_phenomenon#Other_catastrophes. Not enough WP:FRIND independent coverage to justify a stand alone article. What coverage there...

17 August 2018 (UTC) Since only ghost hunters use the term (and our WP:FRIND sources make it clear they are commenting on the use of the term by ghost...

mentions of this show in the mainstream sources that are required for WP:FRIND and the fact that the programming is local cable access is a strong signifier...

philosophical ideas"[336] SAS81 "I'm not seeing any convincing arguments that WP:FRIND or FRINGE overwrites BLP policy to get it right."[337] "I see nothing in...

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about it. Using the Gouws source in particular in a way that violated WP:FRIND would be against policy. Generalrelative (talk) 14:07, 19 January 2022 (UTC)...

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is that reliable sources on this topic in fact do exist (thus meeting WP:FRIND), but they tell a very different story than the current article does. It...

accept sources for such claims that were to independent sources given WP:FRIND. Do you know of any independent, reliable sources (mysteriousuniverse.com...

(UTC) To expand a bit on this, there are questions as they relate to WP:FRIND as to what constitutes a truly "independent" source. This is also seen in...

on these subjects. That's why from a WP:FRINGE perspective we rely on WP:FRIND. WP:MEDRS is even more conservative due to the fact that it is so easy to...

(UTC) A rather old article, long past due for review and improvement via WP:FRIND sourcing. The Bio section is entirely cited to credulous spiritualists,...

be rewritten either to focus on fruit flies or else to conform with WP:FRIND. Generalrelative (talk) 02:02, 2 January 2022 (UTC) Further digging shows...

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by ArbCom, so including non-academic sources, even in the interest of WP:FRIND, would be disallowed. If I'm not mistaken, all the fringe-independent sources...

used as WP:RS on these articles asserting compliance is required with WP:FRIND, and thus repeatedly deleting content. See a current discussion here relating...

whitelisted: User is in trusted groups sysop, checkuser on some wikis Michael Frind (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · Edit filter search ·...

paper and mostly churn as we pointed out above. At best, we have five WP:FRIND-compliant ones. I'm not sure that GNG is the right way to think about this...

(UTC) Whowhatwhy.com is not a reliable or objective source. We'd need a WP:FRIND source to report what a fringe source claims. - LuckyLouie (talk) 17:51...

Jack (talk) 17:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC) As long as the material meets WP:FRIND and WP:ONEWAY, we can expand away. But it sounds to me like you've got a...

independent as per WP:FRIND. What LuckyLouie believes/claims as regards to objectivity, contradicts WP:BIASED. In the end, both WP:FRIND and WP:BIASED are...

(a) the attributed opinions of the proponents, and (b) keeping in mind WP:FRIND when we include content. The journals you are using are of middling to fair...

are essentially only three sources I can find which come close to the WP:FRIND ideal, and they are not enough to pass our threshold, in my estimation....

be used to document such notability, per WP:PARITY."[1] According to WP:FRIND, "Points that are not discussed in independent sources should not be given...

Delete - for me this doesn't directly pass GNG and is sitting around WP:FRIND and thus WP:FRINGE. The RS here, The Independent, relates less to Ms. Bruni...

and unrelated matters while I am focusing on one issue, that you and your frinds must stop your WP:OWN attitude relating to all articles in Category:Chabad-Lubavitch...

conversations about 2 sources and eventually dismissed them both as failing WP:FRIND. One of them has content that QG loves - a statement that he cannot find...

a lot of sources. Delete!voter: None of them are usable according to WP:FRIND, WP:RS, etc. Keep!voter: Yes they are! Delete!voter: Explain. Keep!voter:...

article talk page, secondary sources are vital in Wikipedia (WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:FRIND, etc.). The source in question is Steven Novella, a neurologist and professor...

(LoL :). You're spending waaay too much time with (one of your closest frinds on Wiki) User:Sir Floyd, Off2riorob. You're deveolping some highly biased...

User is whitelisted: User is in a trusted group bot on some wikis Michael Frind (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · Edit filter search ·...

Wrong again; have I mentioned WP:FRINGE or WP:FRIND part of it in above clauses? No, WP:FRINGE or WP:FRIND are not governing guidelines/pieces with regards...

de.ws | de.wp | Johann Maria Philipp Frimont | ( wp g b ) Anton Ludwig Frind | de.ws | de.wp | ( wp g b ) Jakob Frint | de.ws | de.wp | ( wp g b ) Christian...

which are in poorly vetted journals, I might add), there is no real WP:FRIND evaluative work to point to other than dismissal. The best we can do is...

WP:SOAPy. It almost reads like a paid promotional piece. Are there any WP:FRIND sources available about this fellow? jps (talk) 00:13, 29 August 2016 (UTC)...

uninvolved editor, and you're reasoning sounds biased. According to WP:FRIND, this source is ok - since it's peer reviewed. The article itself is quite...

Gerold Schelm. The topic is a classic WP:FRINGE theory and requires WP:FRIND independent sources in order to have an objective article. I've cleaned...

which determines the notability of this controversy, as outlined in WP:FRIND. The analyses published by the organization, which is identified as fringe...

Wydawnictwo Encyklopedyczne. ISBN 83-88822-16-0. K.e.coffman said that WP:FRIND forbids us from citing info directly to Trzcińska at all; on the other hand...

Edgar Mitchell, the most credulous of the astronaut corps, is not a WP:FRIND. Try again. jps (talk) 3:11 pm, Yesterday (UTC−4) As a long-time editor...

guidelines don't quite cover when it came to the sourcing. The only really WP:FRIND source to cite was a very local news article not available online, that...

removing the padding and, if possible, expanding the on-topic content with FRIND sources (as opposed to, for example, expanding the list of credulous ufologists...

exclusively to sources of this type to be suspect. Finally, WP:FRINGE says (at WP:FRIND) that "points ... not discussed in independent sources should not be given...

Talk:Anthroposophy#Epistemology, Ontology etc. Question: does it fail WP:FRIND? Joaquin Muñoz: I don't have a smoking gun, but by the way he uses the word...

Lane. Lane's claims about suppression, cited directly to Lane, violate WP:FRIND. -Location (talk) 21:02, 22 February 2023 (UTC) @Location and HAL333: have...

0 3455 Juliana Cuéllar Martínez 1956-01-01 Bogotá Q96324279 0 3456 Rita Frind Germany 1956 Cologne Q113769298 0 3457 Notburg Bammer austrian painter Austria...

those ideas. They should primarily be covered using independent sources (WP:FRIND), with self-published and author primary sources mostly usable for non-controversial...

protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Can anyone find any WP:FRIND sources that would justify this article? jps (talk) 16:39, 9 November 2014...

else.Slatersteven (talk) 12:07, 4 November 2021 (UTC) No. Please read WP:FRIND and WP:GEVAL. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 18:07, 4 November 2021 (UTC) Well, what...

flash animations and games, made by himself, and his friends. Jacek's two frinds, and fellow flash authors, chaz and fuzz, whom he met on the [3] forums...

clear). Fringe topics are subject to WP policy including WP:FRINGE, WP:FRIND, WP:PSCI and in this case since it also touches medical topics, the WP:MEDRS...

apologia or a convert's book report. Stubbification on the basis of WP:FRIND may be the best way forward. Just eliminate everything that is sourced only...

response to these fringe concepts from science-based medicine using WP:FRIND sources such as the journal above. The newspaper stuff (which I see includes...

article has several problematic features involving WP:OR, WP:IRI, and WP:FRIND, but more importantly it isn't clear the topic merits a stand-alone enWiki...

Perhaps a way out is to remove all sources that do not stand up to the WP:FRIND standard. If we avoid all sources that are not reliable for fringe claims...

and the WP content guideline WP:FRINGE (in particular the subsections WP:FRIND and WP:PARITY). JoJo Anthrax (talk) 02:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC) WP:LINKFARM...

former of them is a Very bad Thing, since template edits aren't server-frindly, as we've found in the past. Not only that, but - as I said - it's precedent-setting...

be used to document such notability, per WP:PARITY."[1] According to WP:FRIND, "Points that are not discussed in independent sources should not be given...

a lot of sources. Delete!voter: None of them are usable according to WP:FRIND, WP:RS, etc. Keep!voter: Yes they are! Delete!voter: Explain. Keep!voter:...

however, they should not be as primary sources. See WP:REDFLAG and WP:FRIND. -Location (talk) 15:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC) I agree, they can be given as...

pump", so support from O'Leary seems a walled garden and does not pass WP:FRIND. Do note that even according to the mentioned review, it is an axiom of...

helpful to readers. Nirvana2013 (talk) 12:24, 30 September 2019 (UTC) No WP:FRIND WP:SOURCES in order to WP:Verify your claims. You have given absolutely...

massive amount of material that is included sourced to violations of WP:FRIND. What we would like to do is remove much of the soapboxing that seems to...

was closed as keep by DGG on 24 Oct 2016; discussion 04 Oct 2016 – Markus Frind AfDed by Anmccaff was closed as redirect by MBisanz on 02 Nov 2016; discussion...

first WP:FRIND source has been introduced only in 2023. That is, the article The Philosophy of Freedom waited more than 17 years for a WP:FRIND source....

think Wikipedia is able to handle this. If there were some third-party WP:FRIND sources which we could point to which explained this game, that'd be one...

and introduces a number of WP:TONE problems. Could use a copyedit and WP:FRIND sourcing, but may take a WP:BLOWITUP to sort out which sources actually...

you determine that it is fringe. Do you have these systematic reviews? WP:FRIND says that independent sources are necessary to determine the relationship...

how does that effect the application of the various guidelines such as WP:FRIND? All fringe ideas treated the same, regardless of where in the spectrum...

- Location (talk) 22:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC) I looked around for WP:FRIND sources that might possibly used for a WP:BIO and found a number of passing...

The topic itself is notable, but I'm having a hard time coming up with WP:FRIND sources that might help fix it. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:13, 30 January 2018...

sources (which results in pulling in some marginal sources to get past FRIND). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:38, 14 July 2022 (UTC) I don't know, the article...

images to upload but not a single is uploading.What i do now??Pls help me frinds.Adi21124 (talk2me —Preceding undated comment added 10:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)...

You are under the misapprehension that Wikipedia should marginalize a WP:FRIND source. This is not how it works. Edwards's work was praised by everyone...

paper itself, or likely Beatriz Villarroel, gains more notability in WP:FRIND sources to justify a spin off article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 17:49, 6 November...

'{{stub}}'é uma cara meio engraçado que estuda comigo.'This is a joke my frind did. Its nickname is '''gaheris'''.') 23:24, 4 Nov 2004 Rdsmith4 deleted...

2019 (UTC) I did a rough pass of removing WP:SPSes by Shamir (failing WP:FRIND and ABOUTSELF-4 - as the most basic bio details are contested by RSes) and...

belief itself. jps (talk) 14:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC) One can argue that, WP:FRIND part of the WP:FRINGE guideline is not for including or excluding sources...

Category:Czechoslovak emigrants 26 Adolf Scherbaum Alexander Horváth Anni Frind Bela Katona Branko Kubala Eugen Sacharias Eva Hayman Fenar Ahmad Frank Simon...

this instance, it looks like there isn't much in terms of comments by WP:FRIND sources as to what we are supposed to assume the meaning behind certain...

In short: Items that cannot be referenced with citations that meet WP:FRIND must be removed, and if removal results in, say, several items on the list...

of A:Here's a lot of sources. B: None of them are usable according to WP:FRIND, WP:RS, etc. A: Yes they are! B: Explain. A: (silence). Isn't that a fair...

generally require very strong sources that comply with WP:MEDRS and also WP:FRIND. Thus old (> 5 years old) secondary sources in fields where we have recent...

post self-published). No to 2 and 3 per WP:SPS, WP:QS, WP:FRINGE, and WP:FRIND. -Location (talk) 16:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC) Yes to #1 under certain...

'{(vfd)}[[Fundamental]]Relation to [[:Category:Main page]] - it is user frindly version. Fundamental is globally fundamental. Not all Fundamental k...')...

Jamesluckard 3082 107 3683 MDSanker 3042 107 3683 Robvanvee 1852 107 3683 Michael Frind 1570 107 3683 Thisiskyle.n 1161 107 3683 Vmanjr 444 107 3683 EricEnfermeroMobile...

This is a fringe topic: we need to use independent sources as guided by WP:FRIND. Anything health-related need to be sourced to WP:MEDRS sources. The content...

Drüing User_talk:Michael Drew User_talk:Michael Fourman User_talk:Michael Frind User_talk:Michael Gäbler User_talk:Michael Glass User_talk:Michael Goodyear...

argued the outlet is a WP:FRINGE source with better sources elsewhere (WP:FRIND); otherwise blog-like, with no fact-checking or editorial oversight. The...

Drüing User talk:Michael Drew User talk:Michael Fourman User talk:Michael Frind User talk:Michael Gäbler User talk:Michael Glass User talk:Michael Goodyear...

2005biggar@enwiki Vinayaraj@enwiki Grungebob@enwiki JF42@enwiki Michael Frind@enwiki UBU07@enwiki Khoenr@enwiki Holliniv@enwiki Wrightyboy@enwiki Randam@enwiki...

shame that the first WP:FRIND source has been introduced only in 2023. That is, the article waited more than 17 years for a WP:FRIND source. tgeorgescu (talk)...

figure out which ideas meet WP:NFRINGE (specifically on the basis of WP:FRIND) and which ones need to be removed completely from the encyclopedia due...

application of dynamite, one learns of a non-notable non-event ignored by WP:FRIND sources and reported (I should probably write "promoted") only by dubious...

hereditarian fringe to which Warne belongs. We should rather be looking for WP:FRIND sources to establish notability. The Critic source was discussed in the...

User talk:Vinayaraj User talk:Grungebob User talk:JF42 User talk:Michael Frind User talk:UBU07 User talk:Khoenr User talk:Holliniv User talk:Wrightyboy...

ignored. jps (talk) 02:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC) I think it is a misuse of WP:FRIND to discount en masse the fact that 60 academics, many quite notable, have...

shown up many academics in the area of skepticism. Per WP:REDFLAG and WP:FRIND, we take a dim view of fringe journals like JSE. jps (talk) 15:56, 7 February...

User talk:Doc James User talk:Vinayaraj User talk:JF42 User talk:Michael Frind User talk:UBU07 User talk:Khoenr User talk:Jonathan.ian.ellis User talk:Holliniv...

sources pass WP:FRIND? I don't think so. jps (talk) 17:36, 13 June 2025 (UTC) They are literally mainstream secondary sources, the kind that FRIND specifically...

talk:Vinayaraj User talk:Fustigate314159 User talk:JF42 User talk:Michael Frind User talk:Khoenr User talk:Symane User talk:Wrightyboy User talk:Mveejay...

User talk:Simsohal User talk:Vinayaraj User talk:JF42 User talk:Michael Frind User talk:DonBarredora User talk:Randam User talk:ResonantDistortion User...

impartially". There is quite a bit in WP:FRINGE which is distinct, for example WP:FRIND, WP:NFRINGE and WP:PARITY. Bon courage (talk) 07:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)...

Carter@enwiki Vinayaraj@enwiki Fustigate314159@enwiki JF42@enwiki Michael Frind@enwiki Khoenr@enwiki Symane@enwiki Wrightyboy@enwiki Mveejay@enwiki DonBarredora@enwiki...

"critical", is not a WP:FRIND source establishing WP:N. And I could WP:CITE Karl-Martin Dietz, but he does not write WP:FRIND either. People who are convinced...

8 September 2023 (UTC) Yes, I am her close friend, she is my precious frind, She is not here at all. I already mentioned about it crearly. She does...

good reason to doubt its accuracy concerning Craig. I note your link to WP:FRIND, and again reject the assertion that WP:FRINGE applies to this article....

°∆t° 17:48, 10 May 2025 (UTC) With SEGM, absolutely not, per WP:FRINGE: WP:FRIND: The best sources to use when describing fringe theories, and in determining...

(systematic reviews and meta-analysis) aligning with WP:MEDRS, WP:FRINGE and WP:FRIND. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chromotherapy and https://en...

(UTC) Delete. The "sources" used here are unacceptable and this is a WP:FRIND topic that requires really solid sources. For example, claims of monster...

User:Michael E Nolan User:Michael Eyl User:Michael F 1967 User:Michael Frind User:Michael Glass User:Michael Goodyear User:Michael Greiner User:Michael...

anything from within the anthroposophist milieu would fall afoul of WP:FRIND. It's like scientology, Bon courage (talk) 18:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)...

Ibezim-Ohaeri - (10585) - delete - closed 22:18, 2 November 2016 (UTC) Markus Frind - (17314) - redirect to PlentyOfFish - closed 22:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)...

Michael Dorosh@enwiki Michael Drew@enwiki Michael F 1967@enwiki Michael Frind@enwiki Michael Glass@enwiki Michael Goodyear@enwiki Michael Greiner@enwiki...

User:Michael Drew User:Michael E Nolan User:Michael F 1967 User:Michael Frind User:Michael Glass User:Michael Goodyear User:Michael Greiner User:Michael...

by ArbCom, so including non-academic sources, even in the interest of WP:FRIND, would be disallowed. If I'm not mistaken, all the fringe-independent sources...

Juninho USCF@enwiki Doc James@enwiki Vinayaraj@enwiki JF42@enwiki Michael Frind@enwiki UBU07@enwiki Khoenr@enwiki Jonathan.ian.ellis@enwiki Holliniv@enwiki...

next band was the Mighty hornets(1987). The drummer,Beachy is very good frinds with Billy idol, and needless to say, the Mighty Hornets played many shows...

history) · Watch. --Hob Gadling (talk) 09:13, 28 November 2024 (UTC) WP:FRIND sources that are cited like Brian Dunning, Joe Nickell, and Skeptical Inquirer...

Kowatsch - (4249) - delete - closed 12:43, 5 November 2016 (UTC) Markus Frind - (17314) - redirect to PlentyOfFish - closed 22:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)...

WP:NPROF among others. All sources seem to be to those non-compliant with WP:FRIND. Moreover, quite a few of them are to the subject himself. jps (talk) 21:13...

User talk:Vinayaraj User talk:JF42 User talk:Karriaagzh User talk:Michael Frind User talk:Stefan040780 User talk:DonBarredora User talk:Randam User...

Dorosh User:Michael Drew User:Michael Eyl User:Michael F 1967 User:Michael Frind User:Michael G. Lind User:Michael Glass User:Michael Goodyear User:Michael...

USCF@enwiki Doc James@enwiki Simsohal@enwiki Vinayaraj@enwiki JF42@enwiki Michael Frind@enwiki DonBarredora@enwiki Randam@enwiki ResonantDistortion@enwiki Bmeyette@enwiki...

Drew]] *[[User:Michael E Nolan]] *[[User:Michael F 1967]] *[[User:Michael Frind]] *[[User:Michael Glass]] *[[User:Michael Goodyear]] *[[User:Michael Greiner]]...

the cited sources are WP:RS. After searching, I cannot find a single WP:FRIND source to cover this topic. It's had a banner warning that it gives undue...

(talk) 03:11, 24 October 2023 (UTC) Ground Crew Project has excellent WP:FRIND sources, something you don't often see in these kinds of articles. From...

and similar believer/advocates. A new article would need independent WP:FRIND sources. - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:46, 20 April 2025 (UTC) Delete. POV fork;...

belief and system of junk science, we typically treat it according to WP:FRIND. Thanks. Chetsford (talk) 01:01, 2 December 2025 (UTC) Harley Rutledge did...

really, truly are and that the sourcing does not rise to the required WP:FRIND levels for proper inclusion in our encyclopedia. jps (talk) 08:27, 8 June...

sources to the article [1][2][3] (aligning with WP:MEDRS, WP:FRINGE, WP:FRIND) which in its present state relies on opinions from non-academic books....

and controlled by intelligent beings. Fringe topics need coverage in WP:FRIND sources to establish notability, and Pope does not meet that bar. More broadly...

Skeptical Enquirer says Dunning is an expert--invalid. WP:INVOLVED and FRIND type ideas come into play (yes, I know it's an internal policy for the first--same...

paper itself, or likely Beatriz Villarroel, gains more notability in WP:FRIND sources to justify a spin off article. - LuckyLouie (talk) 17:49, 6 November...

but for any kind of heavier-weight claim (e.g. about health effects) WP:FRIND would be a consideration and WP:MEDRS would be required, which this magazine...

once a pretty bad corner of Wikipedia. I just don't think we have any WP:FRIND quality sources to write a biography of this obscure professor. jps (talk)...

WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Fails WP:NFRINGE. I find no notice of this by WP:FRIND sources. Only creationists seem interested enough to comment. Wikipedia...

MOS:CREDENTIAL and MOS:PUFFERY are, and especially the manner in which WP:FRIND and WP:NOTNEUTRAL applies to their favourite subject matter. I’m hoping...

(UTC) I don't think these reviews are "independent" in the sense of WP:FRIND. jps (talk) 16:02, 7 June 2025 (UTC) Note: Listed at Fringe theories/Noticeboard...

Noakes (not about Noakes) and from a dodgy publisher (Frontiers). So not WP:FRIND or of high-quality. The second article is from MDPI which is even worse...

(UTC) Content from people in a fringe "research clique" would not be WP:FRIND. You need stuff from outwith the intellectual milieu. Bon courage (talk)...

to it from the POV of its purveyors) but also go counter to precedent WP:FRIND. I argued at Talk:Pajeet#Edit to history, that the only thing due from the...

might use it for articles about controversial topics misses the point of WP:FRIND: this is precisely where the guideline tells us we need to avoid in-universe...

claims. An alternative might be to argue that we don't have reliable WP:FRIND sources about the subject and asking for deletion. jps (talk) 02:38, 14...

and the WP content guideline WP:FRINGE (in particular the subsections WP:FRIND and WP:PARITY). JoJo Anthrax (talk) 02:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC) WP:LINKFARM...

Delete - for me this doesn't directly pass GNG and is sitting around WP:FRIND and thus WP:FRINGE. The RS here, The Independent, relates less to Ms. Bruni...

disconnected photo images, which may or may not be a hoax. A single WP:FRIND source (passing mention of part of the story by Robert Sheaffer) is not...

together, we should not consider it notable per WP:GNG and particularly WP:FRIND and WP:PARITY. Delete per below. Katzrockso (talk) 19:56, 30 September 2025...

(talk) 15:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC) The relevant guidance is probably WP:FRIND. Ufologists are not generally reliable for analysing the WP:FRINGE aspects...

would need sources that represent the mainstream point of view. See WP:FRIND. –dlthewave ☎ 14:37, 22 April 2026 (UTC) But Eberhard's book was published...

redirect to Nikolai Aleksandrovich Kozyrev#Kozyrev mirror. Even the WP:FRIND sources I could find [45] only give it a passing mention, and that's not...

are not notable for Wikipedia articles. There simply isn't enough good WP:FRIND sourcing on them to establish an article. Veg Historian (talk) 21:05, 24...

8 September 2023 (UTC) Yes, I am her close friend, she is my precious frind, She is not here at all. I already mentioned about it crearly. She does...

support the concept of a fringe "organisation" (we already have a need for WP:FRIND sourcing). The part of WP:NOT that applies if WP:BATTLE: Wikipedia is not...

guidelines don't quite cover when it came to the sourcing. The only really WP:FRIND source to cite was a very local news article not available online, that...

unreliable sources like Evolution News (DI magazine) and/or do not satisfy WP:FRIND's criterion (bolded) The best sources to use when describing fringe theories...

other ufologists. When I asked if they thought it met the guidelines at WP:FRIND, they replied "Succintly, no" followed by 700 barely coherent words arguing...

Michael Demin Michael Drew Michael E Nolan Michael Eyl Michael F 1967 Michael Frind Michael Glass Michael Goodyear Michael Greiner Michael Hardy Michael J....

February 2023 (UTC) Please note that the requested edit would violate WP:FRIND, given that Warne's stated position is definitely FRINGE, as determined...

even without considering the policy aspects of the close relating to WP:FRIND and WP:ONEWAY. Generalrelative (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2023 (UTC) I also...

possible history of the Americas without attribution to any source. WP:FRIND is useful here. 166.205.97.96 (talk) 06:15, 18 August 2025 (UTC) And for...

Lane. Lane's claims about suppression, cited directly to Lane, violate WP:FRIND. -Location (talk) 21:02, 22 February 2023 (UTC) @Location and HAL333: have...

Doc James@enwiki Vinayaraj@enwiki JF42@enwiki Karriaagzh@enwiki Michael Frind@enwiki Stefan040780@enwiki DonBarredora@enwiki Randam@enwiki ResonantDistortion@enwiki...

Michael D. Turnbull@enwiki Michael Drew@enwiki Michael F 1967@enwiki Michael Frind@enwiki Michael Goodyear@enwiki Michael Greiner@enwiki Michael Hardy@enwiki...

edit I published was removing the sources that did not comply with the FRIND guidelines. By removing the fringe sources, which were LuckyLouie's main...