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@Esw01407: Hi, I wanted to talk about formatting of the table of past events. I recently made edits to remove the venue/location (because they've been the same every year), to remove the 100% width (because it creates a lot of empty space in the table and I figure it looks better without that), to remove terminal punctuation (per MOS:PERIOD), and to fix dashes (per MOS:DASH). You reverted me saying it was less confusing, but I'm not sure what's confusing about the version I posted. Could you please elaborate? Thanks, IagoQnsi (talk) 00:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I personally find removing the venue makes the list more confusing, even with the event being held at the same location every year. Also, every anime convention article basically follows the same formatting, always listing the venue, minus Anime Boston (has never changed venue.) If you want to remove the periods and change the dash's, I have no problem with that, but you'll need to do every anime and comic convention article to match so they are all uniform. Most/almost all use the formatting with the period and it's variable with the dash's. Esw01407 (talk) 02:22, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:GEOSCOPE. After analysis, the sourcing situation is as follows.

AnimeCons.com references: The event history table relies on 20+ references to AnimeCons.com, which is a user-contributed event directory, not an independent reliable source per WP:RS. These listings are essentially database entries documenting dates, locations, and guest names — they don't constitute the kind of independent editorial coverage that supports notability or encyclopedic detail. I don't believe they should be used as the backbone of an entire section.

Event history table: A year-by-year table listing every guest and attendance figure for 20 iterations of the convention is, in my view, WP:CRUFT — exhaustive detail that doesn't serve the reader encyclopedically. The notable aspects of the convention's history (growth, milestones, cancellation due to COVID, storage space concerns) are already covered in prose and supported by independent local media sources (WHAM, WHEC, Time Warner Cable News, Reporter Magazine, RIT University News).

Founding date: The infobox currently says "first = 2005" based on the earliest AnimeCons.com listing (April 16, 2005). However, the Reporter Magazine source from 2014 is titled "Ten Years In: Tora-Con Celebrates a Decade," which would place the founding in 2004. These can be reconciled — the organization may have been founded in 2004 with the first convention held in 2005 — but this should be clarified in the article text rather than left as a contradiction.

I'm happy to discuss all of this here rather than making competing edits. No matter the outcome of the proposed AfD, an article padded with directory listings just exacerbates WP:UNDUE.

~2026-78471-2 (talk) 21:55, 7 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

animecons.com is the defacto clearing house of convention information used by every anime convention article. It's usually used to show guests, location, etc. All submissions are confirmed by the staff of the website, "Verified Information: We will only list information which we can verify on the official web site. This includes guests, programming, and registration/ticket prices." This is from the FAQ section, and the site is run by Patrick Delahanty, who has organized conventions in the past.

If you wish to clarify a source that directly says the convention was founded in 2004, you can, but your sources would either be a primary source from the convention website at this point, or one of the animecons.com yearly pages, which you are arguing against. I cannot find another source that clarifies that without making assumptions.

The article is already well sourced with independent media coverage (WHAM, WHEC, Time Warner Cable News), weak coverage from FOX Rochester from 2020, and that's even before discussing The Reporter, that on their own websites about page clearly states "Our coverage is independent of any external organization or interests and is not subject to review by the university." I'm not even sure what the point of the AFD was. Or the fact you haven't even finished the process to start the AFD. There's no discussion page even at this time, no editors or projects have been notified, breaking the process for now. Esw01407 (talk) 22:23, 7 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for engaging on this.

AnimeCons.com: The fact that a source is widely used across anime convention articles doesn't make it reliable under WP:RS. A site operator verifying information against official convention websites makes it a curated directory, not independent editorial coverage. WP:GNG requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." AnimeCons.com entries are not about Tora-Con in any analytical or editorial sense; they are listings of Tora-Con's event data. The same way we wouldn't cite an IMDB page to establish notability of a film, we shouldn't cite a convention directory to establish notability of a convention. If there's a broader consensus that AnimeCons.com is reliable, that would be worth establishing at WP:RSN, but widespread use is not the same as community endorsement.

Founding date: I agree this is a minor point. My mention of it was in the interest of article accuracy, not as an argument for or against deletion.

Reporter Magazine: I did not dispute Reporter's independence: note that I listed it among the legitimate independent sources. My position has consistently been that the independent local media coverage (WHAM, WHEC, Time Warner Cable News, Reporter, RIT News) is where the article's sourcing strength lies, and that the AnimeCons.com directory listings and the event history table built on them do not add to that strength.

AfD process: As an IP editor, I cannot create AfD subpages, so I posted a request at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion for an autoconfirmed editor to complete the listing. If you feel the article clearly meets WP:GNG, you're welcome to participate there when the AfD formally starts, or to complete the listing yourself so the discussion can proceed properly. Either way, the sourcing concerns I've raised here apply independently of the AfD and I raised them here so they could be discussed on their merits. ~2026-78471-2 (talk) 23:59, 7 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Please also be aware that animecons.com is considered reliable by the Anime and manga project per WP:A&M/ORS with more details there. Esw01407 (talk) 00:39, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I don't dispute that AnimeCons.com may be a useful reference for verifiable facts within anime convention articles: dates, locations, and so on. However, the GNG question is whether a source provides significant coverage, not merely whether it is reliable for basic facts. An AnimeCons.com directory entry is a structured listing, not editorial coverage. ~2026-78471-2 (talk) 01:44, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Also please see Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#AFD_request:_Tora-Con ~2026-78471-2 (talk) 21:44, 8 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If the IP wants to pursue the AFD, then they might contact another established editor to do so on their behalf. The tag connected to no process and there's nothing in the logs apparent to me. BusterD (talk) 13:55, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I've created a working AFD process. BusterD (talk) 14:21, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Source 3,9,10, 12-29: Directory information

Source 4, 6, 7, and 11: from RIT Reporter, the student magazine (coverage is independent of RIT). Source 7 does not cover Tora-Con in depth (though focuses on storage space removal controversy), but the others do.

Source 5: "The 10th annual Tora-Con kicked off Saturday at the Rochester Institute of Technology, drawing thousands of anime and cosplay enthusiasts.

Fans dressed up as their favorite characters and enjoyed panels, performances, concerts, dances, contests and more.

Tora-Con started as a fundraiser for the RIT Anime Club, which is the largest anime club on the east coast. Organizers say they expect more than 3,000 people to come out this weekend.

"To our surprise, 77% of people at least with preregistration are out of town or from the Rochester area," said Jan Dvorak, Convention Chair. "We know we have people coming as far as Texas. I am honored, we are all honored, that people are coming so far. It's confirmation for us that we're putting on a great show."

Tora-Con celebrated its 10th anniversary with a memory wall and a birthday party. The event runs through Sunday."

Source 1: "Henrietta, N.Y. - If you spotted some of your favorite comic book characters around rochester today, don't worry you weren't imagining things!

Anime, Sci-Fi and fantasy enthusiasts gathered at R.I.T. today to celebrate the annual Tora-Con.

The convention, which gets its name from the Japanese word for "tiger," is a weekend of performances where those interested in Japanese culture can interract.

This was the 10th annual Tora-Con."

Source 2: "Three thousand people came dressed in costume and ready to celebrate the 10th annual Tora-Con at RIT. Tora-Con is a convention for fans of anime, manga, Japanese culture, sci-fi and fantasy, but organizers say there's so much to see that you don't have to be an anime fan to enjoy it. Jan Dvorak, Tora-Con chair, said, "We reach out and thanks to all this meshing and working together we are creating a unique experience that even though at the core is still anime and Japan and all that culture we are kind of coming together with this anime and sci-fi convention and I think we are going to see in the future much more of that." This year, RIT's Tora-con convention celebrated its 10th anniversary."

Source 8: "Anime, the Japanese-style of animation, is taking the RIT campus by storm this weekend. It's the 6th annual Tora-Con Convention, raising money for the club and bringing the characters to life. "We go dress up as characters that we love and go have fun,” said Anime fan Tiana Adams-Hawkins. “It's like acting, but you aren't getting paid for it. You're actually paying for it because you have to get your own costume." Two years ago, Tora-Con saw 600 people participating. This year, 2,500 people registered, and that's only because they had to stop registration because of capacity. “I think we hit a very comfortable [number] right now, but it's up to next years convention staff whether they want to go for 5,000,” said Convention Chair Mike Calarco. Valerie Tatro is one of 14 vendors selling merchandise at the convention. This is Tatro’s second year making the seven-hour trip from Vermont, which is something she says she enjoys. "It's a good convention,” said Tatro. “It's fun and the fans are good; they are good to us. We want to be out here and be good to them." This convention is more than just dress up. It allows Anime fans to check out the latest merchandise and meet new people. "It just allows us all to mix and mingle and show off what we can do with our sewing skills, or meet friends and make some new friends," said Anime Club member Jennifer Gillette. The two-day convention concludes Sunday on the RIT campus."

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~2026-88582-5 (talk) 18:45, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]