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The text as it stands is completely non-NPOV; I would vote for a complete rewrite and to fall down a cliff or something. Opinions? -- April

It definitely needs a rewrite. I don't see how anyone can write even the shortest article on Temperance without mentioning the Temperance Movement of the 19th and early 20th century -- Derek

The article should also discuss Aristotle's Golden Mean. Wesley 13:37 Aug 26, 2002 (PDT)

• Removed non-NPOV text, below. -- April

A temperate person follows a middle path through life. This trait is valued because it makes one a reliable friend and citizen, and a trusted debtor and reasonable creditor.

The subtlety of classic temperance is when to temper temperance. A truly temperate person also knows when to be extreme in excellence, apology, delegation, responsibility, forgiveness, vengeance, courage, discretion, grief and joy.

This makes a temperate person suitable to all seasons and stations of life.

However, only a fool believes that temperance can include virtue and vice. Such temperance cannot be a virtue. It is a contradiction to say so.

It would take a little more research, but I suspect that the removed text is characteristic of Aristotle, and possibly Confucius. If this can be verified, perhaps it could be restored in a form that properly attributes it to the correct philosopher(s). Wesley

"Temperance" usually refers to the movement; the other article is a stub. Why not keep it here? --Jiang 07:21, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

knock yourself out. (p.s. why do you have two colors in your name?) jengod 07:24, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

First part links to my userpage, second part links to my talk page. Specially designed for your convenience :) --Jiang