Talk:TCL Electronics

Additional info/Amendment to TCL Electronics Page

Hi Wiki editors,

This is Calvin of Bluecurrent Group acting on behalf of TCL Electronics, who would like to suggest the first batch of edits below for consideration.

--BCHK c (talk) 13:44, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Too long. I put it in draftspace instead. Draft:TCL Electronics.
For the content, list of sponsorship deal seem not an encyclopedic content. Also, list of products may be not that encyclopedic either, unless that RS had in-depth coverage on that product that merit the product as notable / revolutionary / should be mentioned. Matthew hk (talk) 13:56, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And here is the link for making edit request Template:Request edit. Follow the template instruction to put it here to request simple edit. Matthew hk (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
More minor suggestion. website should use |website= instead of |publisher=. I have no time to fix it, but you can do it in the draft. Matthew hk (talk) 07:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Matthew. I will look into it and make the necessary changes asap --BCHK c (talk) 10:48, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew, I have added some more suggested changes in Draft:TCL Electronics. Shall i paste everything here or shall I do so in the draft page instead? For the proposed content, this is with reference to the format/topic of the published content in other brands' wikipedia pages that hold similar business nature as TCL Electronics. I am pretty much following a similar path but let me know if you think otherwise.
I also plan to upload a company image, just checking to see if I should make the request for the main page or draft page for now as a non-autoconfirmed user? --BCHK c (talk) 08:13, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed changes

Information to be added or removed: See Draft:TCL Electronics

Explanation of issue: To update outdated content and to supplement existing content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BCHK c (talkcontribs) 08:13, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 19-NOV-2019

  Clarification requested  

  • There are two issues with the suggested changes:
  1. The requested changes are accompanied largely by primary sources when Wikipedia prefers — to a greater degree — WP:SECONDARY sources originating from reliable, independent publications.[1]
  2. Reasons have not been provided with each requested change. All additions and subtractions from an article require reasons for their needing to be made.[2]
  • To that end, please reformulate your request, taking care to ensure that a larger selection of references used are to reliable, independent, secondary sources, and that reasons are provided with each individual change.[a] An example for how one such substitution can be made is depicted below:
  • Please feel free to open a new edit request at your earliest convenience when ready to proceed.

Regards,  Spintendo  14:10, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "WP:PSTS". Wikipedia. 14 October 2019. Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources.
  2. ^ "Template:Request edit". Wikipedia. 19 November 2019. Instructions for Submitters": "If the rationale for a change is not obvious (particularly for proposed deletions), explain.

Notes

  1. ^ Many of the references proposed to be used with the edit request were published by nominally independent sources, but several of those published claims actually originate from company-issued press releases.

Page suggested edits

Thanks @spintendo for your comment. Please find below the list of suggested changes and rationale behind. --BCHK c (talk) 12:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Hi, just to check out and see if there's anything we need to further beef up regarding the sources/content? Thanks! --BCHK c (talk) 09:31, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 06-DEC-2019

  Edit request partially implemented  

Regards,  Spintendo  10:17, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update 16 Dec 2019

Hi Spintendo, many thanks for your time reviewing this.

THanks --BCHK c (talk) 10:56, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update 17 Dec 2019

— Preceding unsigned comment added by BCHK c (talkcontribs) 11:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Partially implemented Expanded rationales given in our discussion on my talk page.  Spintendo  14:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update 19 Dec 2019

Hi @Spintendo:, I would like to submit another batch of update request for your review. Thanks!

--BCHK c (talk) 10:46, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 20-DEC-2019

  Edit request partially implemented  

  1. Green tickY The company being a subsidiary of TCL IH was added to the lead.
  2. Red XN The proposal regarding "today's TCL Electronics" was not added, per WP:NOTBROCHURE.
  3. Green tickY The mention of the company's offices in Hong Kong was omitted.

Regards,  Spintendo  08:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi @Spintendo:, can you advise how the paragraph can be further amended to pass this guideline as i can see a number of pages also reference information from company websites or PRnewswire for their intro. Thanks! --BCHK c (talk) 14:30, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Spintendo:, Can you please suggest on how to amend the second point, in order to pass the guideline? As I can see quite a few companies including LG Electronics and Samsung Electronics also mentioned similar information, including their size of global businesses and global market share. --BCHK c (talk) 11:42, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest you read the information at WP:NOTBROCHURE in order to revise the proposal so that it does not read like an advertising brochure for the company. "TCL Electronics is continuously pushing forward business diversification in areas such as headphones, sound bars, commercial displays and smart home products so it can continue to grow as a company. TCL Electronics is to become a major smart technology company and has adopted the strategy "A.I. x IoT" focusing on technological innovation, R&D and manufacturing, so as to provide its customers around the world with products and services that help them live a smart and healthy life.” It goes without saying that claims of the company delivering a "smarter healthier life" are not appropriate for the article. Everything in the second part of your proposal which makes the company sound efficient, technologically savvy or beneficial to human life are all descriptions which should be assiduously avoided. Regards,  Spintendo  04:11, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update 30 Dec 2019

Hi @Spintendo:, I would like to submit another batch of update request for your review, suitable changes were made according to your suggestions and the guideline. Thanks!

--BCHK c (talk) 11:46, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 29-DEC-2019

The following is my feedback on your proposal:

  • Today TCL Electronics’ business spans more than 160 markets around the world including North America, Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa and South America.
This is already in the article, where it states "TCL has set up production and marketing systems in dozens of countries and regions worldwide." Dozens of regions would mathmatically encompass a large portion of the planet if one counts regions as Asia, Europe, North and South America, Africa and the Middle East, leaving six more regions to go.
  • TCL Electronics specializes in the research and development and the manufacturing of TV products
The article already states that it manufactures televisions.
  • with large sales volumes globally.
What large means here is unclear. Large as opposed to what? Large according to whom? Is this large-ness for one year, or two years, or a decade?
  • In 2018, the company was ranked second in the global TV market by shipment with a market share of 10.9%, according to IHS Markits.
What methadology does IHS Markits use to arrive at this distinction?
  • Apart from its core TV business, TCL Electronics is continuously pushing forward business diversification in areas such as headphones, soundbars, commercial displays and smart home products.
"Continuously pushing forward" means what exactly?
  • TCL Electronics has also adopted the strategy “A.I. x IoT” focusing on technological innovation, R&D and Manufacturing
That TCL has adopted a strategy of innovation is neither suprising nor encyclopedic in value as a statement. How and in what way does using this strategy help to "focus" on innovation? Please advise.

Regards,  Spintendo  04:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 10-JAN-2020

Please check out my responds based on your feedback previously given:

  • Today TCL Electronics’ business spans more than 160 markets around the world including North America, Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa and South America.
We would like to include the sentence as it further clarifies TCL’s span in the world.
  • TCL Electronics specializes in the research and development and the manufacturing of TV products
As TV manufacturing, research and development are the core business of TCL, we would like to emphasize that once again. This sentence also helps to connect the first and the second part of the paragraph, to make the entire thing appear to be more coherence.
  • with large sales volumes globally.
TCL is reported by Business Insider to be a leading TV company in the global market. The global brand TV sales volume of TCL Electronics recorded significant growth of 21.2% Y-o-Y in the first 3 quarters of 2019. With having the growth rate ranks top 2 in the US market.
TCL is therefore a top player in the TV market, and have a large sales volume globally.
1. Using as the reference:"TCL Electronics Records High Sales Volume in the First Three Quarters of 2019 and Several Securities Firms Including CICC Issue Positive Ratings". Business Insider. 28 November 2019. Retrieved 10 January 2020.
  • In 2018, the company was ranked second in the global TV market by shipment with a market share of 10.9%, according to IHS Markits.
IHS Markit has a timely, quarterly updated TV Sets Market Tracker. IHS Markit’s database contains data of actual shipments from Q1 2013 to the most recent quarter. Metrics include shipments, revenues, average selling prices and shipment area—further parsed by manufacturer, display technology, screen size, and resolution across eight major world regions.
Moreover, TCL has been steadily moving up the market share chart in the U.S. and North America, it’s reported that TCL holds No.1 TV market share for North American unit shipment in 2019, according to the research from IHS Markit.
1. Using as the reference:"TCL Surges to the Top of the North American TV Market Amid US-China Trade Turbulance". IHS Markit. 3 June 2019. Retrieved 10 January 2020.
2. Using as the reference:"TV Sets Market Tracker - Quarterly". IHS Markit. 10 January 2020. Retrieved 10 January 2020.
  • Apart from its core TV business, TCL Electronics is continuously pushing forward business diversification in areas such as headphones, soundbars, commercial displays and smart home products.
“Pushing forward” means to continue to innovate and develop more variety and higher quality products. TCL will never step back or stand still and will continue to be the leader in the electronic market.
For instance, TCL has just roll out a new Alto 9+ Soundbar during CES 2020. The soundbar was reviewed by What Hi Fi as a feature-packed Atmos soundbar at a bargain price, and it is a product of note at CES 2020.
1. Using as the reference:"Hands on: TCL Alto 9+ Dolby Atmos soundbar review". What Hi Fi. 9 January 2020. Retrieved 10 January 2020.
  • TCL Electronics has also adopted the strategy “A.I. x IoT” focusing on technological innovation, R&D and Manufacturing
TCL has recently announced its launch of a Smart range of AI-powered television and air conditioners along with TCL Home App. After the success and rapid growth in the TV segment, TCL is now wanting to disrupt the home entertainment space with its focus on AI-driven smart TVs and IoT enabled Air conditioners. TCL aims at creating smart home with its network of innovative smart home appliances.
1. Using as the reference:"TCL launches AI x IoT products with an objective of making home smart". PC Quest. 9 January 2020. Retrieved 10 January 2020.

Thanks! @Spintendo: Please have a look at my reply above, to see if I have provided more clearly clarification on the reasons for inclusion as you previously requested. Thank you very much! --BCHK c (talk) 15:02, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update 31 Dec 2019

Hi @Spintendo:, I would like to submit another batch of update request for your review. Suitable changes were made according to your previous comments and suggestions, please help to update the article accordingly. Thanks!

Hi @Spintendo: in terms of the Product part, I have more clearly clarified the reasons for inclusion as you previously requested. All of them are also supported by secondary sources referencing. Please help to update the article accordingly. Thank you very much! --BCHK c (talk) 11:55, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Spintendo: Could you please have a look at our edit request and update our page accordingly? Thank you very much! --BCHK c (talk) 12:48, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Update 19 Feb 2020

I would like to resubmit the following edit request for review. Thanks! --BCHK c (talk) 03:17, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

--BCHK c (talk) 03:17, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 19-FEB-2020

  Edit request declined  

  • Wikipedia is not the place for past or present company product announcements.

Regards,  Spintendo  06:02, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Response 25-FEB-2020

The suggested changes are not merely new/past product announcements, but also a reflection of the company's achievement in different aspects in the TV space based on third party sources (For example: First 3D internet TV, Debut of QUHD TV-Quantum Dot TV etc.). It would be helpful if you can review again and reconsider what changes can be implemented. --BCHK c (talk) 22:21, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 December 29 § Tcl. Bend1010 (talk) 09:03, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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