Talk:Neil Shen

Overcite

this article has big problems with WP:OVERCITE. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 09:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to add information

I have proposed updates for this page. I have a WP:COI as a consultant for WhiteHatWiki, which was hired by the subject of this article. Thank you for your review.

1. Please add the following as the new seventh paragraph of the Career section:

Shen was ranked first on the Forbes Midas List, a global ranking of the best performing venture capitalists in the world, in 2018,[1]2019,[2] 2020,[3] and 2023.[4]

Reason:

Information about Shen’s ranking on the Midas List was previously removed by an editor who believed it was a “trade award” that lacked notability. Though the name makes it seem less serious, in fact, the Midas List isn't from the trade press, and it’s not an award. It’s the most authoritative global ranking of individual venture capitalists. It uses a rigorous methodology, and is compiled by Forbes staff annually. Forbes is best known for financial rankings, such as the Forbes 400 and Forbes Global 2000, because they apply rigorous methodology. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Forbes specifically states “Forbes also publishes various "top" lists which can be referenced in articles.” Pages about other venture capitalists include information about their ranking on the Midas List (Satish Dharmaraj, Reid Hoffman), and the Midas list is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia page. The list has existed in its current format on Forbes for more than a decade. Well-regarded media that have written about or relied on the list include the New York Times, CNN, and the Miami Herald.

Since Shen was number one on this list for multiple years (meaning his venture capital investments made more money for his investors than any other VC in the world), it seems highly relevant to this page, at least for the years when he was number one. When the statement was removed, there were no secondary sources, which I’ve now added to support every year mentioned.

Thanks for taking a look. Brucemyboy1212 (talk) 18:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Lee, Georgina (4 April 2018). "Sequoia China head Neil Shen tops Forbes' global list of leading technology venture capitalists". South China Morning Post. Retrieved 14 June 2025. Hongkonger Neil Shen, head of Sequoia Capital China, tops this year's Forbes' 2018 Midas list, which ranks the world's top 100 venture capitalists (VCs) who have made strong exits or notable investment deals involving technology start-ups.
  2. ^ "Top 10 Venture Capitalists In Asia". Asia Tech Daily. 15 August 2019. Retrieved 14 June 2025.
  3. ^ Dai, Sarah (2 June 2020). "Sequoia Capital China's Neil Shen and Softbank Vision Fund partner quit board roles at Qihoo 360". South China Morning Post. Retrieved 14 June 2025. Shen is arguably the most powerful venture capital investor in China's tech industry, and the Yale graduate was named No. 1 on the 2020 Forbes Midas List of the world's best venture capital investors, taking the accolade for the third consecutive year.
  4. ^ Schubarth, Cromwell (5 May 2023). "Bay Area VCs dominated the top of Forbes' Midas List again this year". Silicon Valley Business Journal. Retrieved 14 June 2025. Neil Shen of Sequoia China topped this year's Midas List, the annual ranking of top VCs done by Forbes magazine.
Done Likeanechointheforest (talk) 16:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Requested edits, August 2025

I have some suggestions for improving the factual accuracy of this page. I have a WP:COI as a consultant for WhiteHatWiki, which was hired by the subject of this article.

1. Please update the third paragraph of the Lead:

Change from:

In December 2022, Forbes put his net worth at $3.6 billion.[1]

Change to:

As of August 2025, Forbes estimated his net worth at $3.8 billion.[2]

Reason: Rewriting to reflect the most recent information available.


2. Please rewrite the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Career section:

Change from:

Shen left the banking sector and in June 1999 co-founded Ctrip.com with James Liang, Min Fan, and Qi Ji.

Change to:

Shen left the banking sector in 1999 and co-founded Ctrip.com,[3] one of China’s first online travel brands and booking sites,[4] along with James Liang, Min Fan, and Qi Ji.[5]

Reason: Rewriting to provide context. I’ve also replaced a dead link (China Breaking News) with a CNN source and reordered the citations to support corresponding statements and correct for WP:SYNTH.

3. Please rewrite the second and third sentences of the second paragraph of the Career section:

Change from:

He served as president of the company from August 2003 to October 2005. He oversaw the company's initial public offering (IPO) on the Nasdaq in December 2003.[6][3][7]

Change to:

Shen served as president and CFO of Ctrip,[3] and oversaw the company’s initial public offering (IPO) on the Nasdaq in 2003.[8]

Reason: Rewriting to include that Shen was also Ctrip’s CFO as reported by a Forbes profile written by a senior editor. But because none of the existing sources support the dates of these positions - and I couldn’t find one that does - I’ve suggested removing the dates for now. The WSJ source covers the IPO but doesn’t mention Shen, so I’ve replaced it with a source that can support his leadership position during the company’s 2003 IPO.

4. Please rewrite the third paragraph of the Career section:

Change from:

In 2002, Shen co-founded Home Inn as a joint venture between Ctrip and the Beijing Tourism Group. It was spun off from Ctrip as a separate company before its IPO on the Nasdaq in 2006.[6][3][9]

Change to:

In 2001, Shen cofounded Home Inn as a subsidiary of Ctrip; it went public as a separate company in 2006.[3]

Reason: As written, the paragraph cites three sources. The first (China Breaking News) is a dead link and the third (South China Morning Post) only reports the planned IPO, which violates WP:CRYSTALBALL. I’ve rewritten the sentence to reflect the reporting in the third source, which verifies the information I included. Information about the Beijing Tourism Group was not reported in any of the sources, so has been removed.

5. Please rewrite the second paragraph of the Lead section:

Change from:

He has been dubbed the most successful early-stage investor in China.[1][10]

Change to:

He is the most successful venture capital investor in China, according to Forbes[1][11] and the Financial Times.[12]

Reason: Rewriting to switch the term “early-stage” for “venture capital investor” because it more accurately describes Shen, who makes investments at several stages - not just early. This change is supported by reporting in the Financial Times.

Thank you for reviewing this proposal. Brucemyboy1212 (talk) 18:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: @Brucemyboy1212: Reference #6 seems to be undefined, you might want to fix that first? AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 13:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@AlphaBetaGamma: Thanks for the heads up. That ref is a broken link in the existing code. I've fixed it. Brucemyboy1212 (talk) 12:57, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Thanks for the clear request and sources. I have implemented the changes. Note: for item 1, the Forbes net worth reference now reads “As of September 2025" rather than "As of August 2025" from your original request. Zxm92 (talk) 19:03, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c Flannery, Russell. "Sequoia's Neil Shen Tops Forbes China Ranking Of Best Venture Investors". Forbes. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  2. ^ "Profile: Neil Shen". Forbes. Retrieved 26 August 2025.
  3. ^ a b c d e Konrad, Alex. "How Neil Shen Built A Winner At Sequoia Capital China". Forbes. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  4. ^ "From scratch". The Economist. 31 August 2000. Retrieved 20 August 2025. "...in 1999 he set up one of China's first travel brands, ctrip.com, a website in Chinese and English where visitors can read travel reviews and book air tickets or hotel rooms.'
  5. ^ Hiufu Wong, Maggie (30 October 2019). "How to win over Chinese travelers? The CEO of leading travel site Ctrip shares her expertise". CNN. Retrieved 25 August 2025.
  6. ^ a b "Neil Shen Nanpeng". China Banking News. 10 March 2019. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  7. ^ Hennessey, Raymond (15 December 2003). "Ctrip International's Success As an IPO Has Others Hoping". Wall Street Journal. ISSN 0099-9660. Retrieved 16 June 2023.
  8. ^ "Ctrip raises share price as investors flock to IP". South China Morning Post. 10 December 2003. Retrieved 28 August 2025.
  9. ^ "Home Inn Hotels looks to Nasdaq for US$80m". South China Morning Post. 6 October 2006. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  10. ^ "Sequoia Capital's Neil Shen knows how to pick a winner". Nikkei Asia. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  11. ^ "Forbes China Releases 2024 Venture Capital 100 List: Activating New Growth". Forbes China. 10 December 2024. Retrieved 28 August 2025.
  12. ^ Sender, Henry (3 February 2019). "Sequoia to make earlier and bigger bets in China". Financial Times. Retrieved 27 August 2025. Neil Shen, China's most successful venture capitalist, is refining a twin-pronged approach as he invests in the country's next generation of tech companies...

Requested edits, October 2025

I have some additional suggestions for improving the factual accuracy of this page. I have a WP:COI as a consultant for WhiteHatWiki, which was hired by the subject of this article. @Zxm92: Notifying you as the most recent reviewer in case you’d like to look these over. Thank you.


1. Please rewrite the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Career section:

Change from:

Shen left the banking sector and in June 1999 and co-founded Ctrip.com,[1] one of China’s first online travel brands and booking sites,[2] along with James Liang, Min Fan, and Qi Ji.[3]

Change to:

Shen left the banking sector and in June 1999 and co-founded Ctrip.com,[1] - later Trip.com - [4] one of China’s first online travel brands and booking sites,[5] along with James Liang, Min Fan, and Qi Ji.[6]

Reason: Rewriting to add fundamental identifying information about the company that is currently missing from the page.

2. Please replace the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Personal life section.

Change from:

Shen currently holds Hong Kong citizenship and resides in Hong Kong.[7]

Change to:

As of 2025, Shen lived in Hong Kong.[7]

Reason: Updating to reflect date as reported by the source and removing “Hong Kong citizenship” because that information does not appear in the source.

3. Please remove the third sentence of the second paragraph of the Personal life section:

Outside Hong Kong, Shen also has a mansion in Hainan where he often invites investors.[8][9]

Reason: This seems like relatively trivial and non-encyclopedic information as well as WP:PEACOCK. The sources are strong (Financial Times and Nikkei Asia), but the sentence is still flirting with WP:TRIVIA. Just because it’s verifiable doesn’t mean it merits inclusion in the article.

Thank you. Brucemyboy1212 (talk) 19:28, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. I support adding a brief identifier. However, since the company’s article is Trip.com Group, I plan to use that name. I propose the following: "Shen left the banking sector, and in June 1999, co-founded Ctrip.com — later Trip.com Group — one of China’s first online travel brands and booking sites, along with James Liang, Min Fan, and Qi Ji.
2. This is straightforward, so I will remove that per WP:BLP and WP:V. Per WP:ASOF, I propose using present tense with a date: "As of 2025, Shen lives in Hong Kong."
3. This looks non‑essential and skews toward lifestyle detail. I agree on your point about WP:TRIVIA, and, in my view, it also violates WP:UNDUE. The source is also over a decade old. Unless other editors object, I support removing it. (Tagging Likeanechointheforest, as they've reviewed requests on this page, so I want to give them a chance to weigh in if they'd like.)
I will wait a couple of days, and then implement the requested edits (including the language on the first two, if that is accurate and acceptable to satisfy your request). Zxm92 (talk) 20:49, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Zxm92 - your suggested language is accurate and balanced. I appreciate the review. Brucemyboy1212 (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done Zxm92 (talk) 19:08, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ a b Konrad, Alex (April 2, 2014). "How Neil Shen Built A Winner At Sequoia Capital China". Forbes. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  2. ^ "From scratch". The Economist. August 31, 2000. ISSN 0013-0613. Retrieved 2025-09-28. ...in 1999 he set up one of China's first travel brands, ctrip.com, a website in Chinese and English where visitors can read travel reviews and book air tickets or hotel rooms.
  3. ^ Wong, Maggie Hiufu (October 30, 2019). "How to win over Chinese travelers? Ctrip CEO shares her expertise". CNN. Retrieved 2025-09-28.
  4. ^ Schaal, Dennis (25 October 2019). "Ctrip Name Change to Trip.com Group Is Now Official". Skift. Retrieved 20 October 2025. 'As expected, Ctrip shareholders decided to change the company name to Trip.com Group Ltd., adopting the moniker of the U.S. startup that Ctrip acquired in 2017. "
  5. ^ "From scratch". The Economist. August 31, 2000. ISSN 0013-0613. Retrieved 2025-09-28. ...in 1999 he set up one of China's first travel brands, ctrip.com, a website in Chinese and English where visitors can read travel reviews and book air tickets or hotel rooms.
  6. ^ Wong, Maggie Hiufu (October 30, 2019). "How to win over Chinese travelers? Ctrip CEO shares her expertise". CNN. Retrieved 2025-09-28.
  7. ^ a b "Profile: Neil Shen". Forbes. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  8. ^ "Sequoia Capital's Neil Shen knows how to pick a winner". Nikkei Asia. Retrieved 19 June 2023.
  9. ^ Sender, Henny (6 August 2015). "Lunch with the FT: Neil Shen". Financial Times. Retrieved 19 June 2023.

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