Talk:Harry Kane

What's going on with the "Regarded as [one of] the best x of y" summations in footballer article ledes?

The opening paragraph of the article used to state:

Kane is regarded as one of the best players in the world and one of the best strikers of his generation.

This is still entirely supportable (arguably more so than ever given that he just placed within the top 10 at the Ballon D'Or and won multiple Europe-wide awards last season), but I understand the contentiousness of these sentences and their strange ubiquitousness. I've seen this construct removed from a few footballers' pages now, but it's very inconsistently applied. Is this some new policy? How is it to be applied? And should we be removing it from every footballer's page? What are the guidelines here?

If anything, the current lede understates Kane's level of standing within the footballing world, especially relative to other footballers who haven't had this wording extirpated. Elliott-AtomicInfinity (talk) 03:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For you to remove this description implies that it must be a universal rule to remove such words as "among the greatest". I would suggest using the term "among the most skilled" or "among the most successful" as alternate descriptions. Certainly, the term "the greatest" is not a term with a defined meaning.
I suspect that there will be some upset people when we remove such descriptions universally. Tennisedu (talk) 05:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tennisedu It is absolutely fine to use "the best" or "the greatest" if there are multiple reliable sources using that term. This is why your changes have been reverted at the Ronaldo and Messi articles, where there are such sources (the phrasing there has been the subject of much discussion as well). Equally, if you're going to change it to "most skilled" or "most successful", then you'll need to source that phrasing as well. Black Kite (talk) 09:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All terms such as "the greatest" or "the greatest in the world" have already been long since removed from other sports articles such as tennis, where there was extensive discussion about this issue a few years ago. It was determined that the term was essentially without any defined meaning and was simply a "puff" term and should not appear in the lead. For example, in the Djokovic article, the term "most successful" is used. Further, you are suggesting that footnotes be used in the lead to support this? That is another issue of contention. If the statements are supported by references in the body of the article, it is not necessary to use them in the lead. In the final analysis, we should not have a different set of rules for each sport. Tennisedu (talk) 16:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect that using tennis as an example to change previously consensus-agreed wording in a different sport is doomed to failure. But regardless, if you can gain consensus to change the wording of such articles, then please start a discussion. Black Kite (talk) 22:26, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We have already had that discussion in the tennis articles, and all references to "the greatest" have been expunged from Wikipedia tennis articles. I cannot understand why this is not already accepted for soccer articles. Sports is sports. Tennisedu (talk) 07:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I now see that for the baseball and the golf articles, terms such as "one of the greatest" are commonly used. It looks like tennis articles are just different.Tennisedu (talk) 09:12, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. I would again make clear though, that such wording should only be used where there are multiple reliable sources using it. Such articles are likely to be few and far between. Black Kite (talk) 12:40, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We have three low-quality references attached to the puffery now, so that’s nice. Seasider53 (talk) 06:32, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2025

Surely Greaves not Kane is Spurs' all-time top scorer ? 2A0A:EF40:67:5201:234:D4B:D824:4B80 (talk) 20:21, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Not according to this article on their website. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 21:08, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Algarve Tournament

Algarve Tournament is a simply friendly tournament. We're not going to list all those, unless it was UEFA organised. Beshogur (talk) 11:17, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

so is the Nations Cup, Under 20 Elite League, and other such tourneys.Muur (talk) 20:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2025

He became an ambassador for the https://rbli.co.uk/ Tommy Club in December 2020, unveiling the Tommy United figure to commemorate the 1914 Christmas Truce. His foundation also supports RBLI’s Lifeworks programme, helping raise awareness and funding for housing, welfare, and employment services for veterans. RBLI (talk) 12:46, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Day Creature (talk) 19:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2025

Change 111 appearances to 112 in the body text ~2025-34096-91 (talk) 19:08, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Prolabelmaker (talk) 10:49, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2026

Update his champions league goal tally to 50, it currently says 45. ~2026-20757-88 (talk) 10:30, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Done per [1]. Prolabelmaker (talk) 10:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Hairy Kane has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 May 4 § Hairy Kane until a consensus is reached. Casablanca 🪨(T) 15:27, 4 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Factual error regarding Harry Kane & Dixie Dean

Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. Day Creature (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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