Talk:First Crusade

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Current status: Former featured article, current good article

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2024

Add the following during the section on the Siege of Antioch: Firouz, a pivotal figure during the Siege of Antioch, was a Christian who had converted to Islam and held a key position in the city as a tower commander. Discontented with his treatment under the Muslim leaders and motivated by personal grievances, Firouz secretly negotiated with Bohemond. His betrayal allowed the Crusaders to infiltrate the city by guiding them through the city's defenses in the middle of the night. Firouz’s actions directly facilitated the fall of Antioch to the Crusaders, marking a decisive moment on the Crusader's path to Jerusalem Scamilosteez (talk) 02:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 02:39, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Persecution of Christians

i don't think this part of the page is neutral enough, and more then that "even bishops are defiled with the sin of sodomy and it is now trumpeted abroad that one bishop has succumbed to this abominable sin." i thaught muslims were strict toward sodomy ? i wish if anybody have the ability to give more better express about this part of the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.172.212.73 (talk) 21:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Error in map titled "The Byzantine Empire (867–1081)"

The labels for the borders at 1025 and 1081 are reversed based on the source provided for the map titled "The Byzantine Empire (867–1081)". Please fix, whoever made the map. "https://archive.org/details/byzantineempire0000brow/page/94/mode/2up" ~2025-43025-12 (talk) 21:28, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2026

Delete "The historiography (history of the histories) of the First Crusade and the Crusades in general, as expected, show works that reflect the views of the authors and the times that they lived in."

This is a truism and is assumed in all historical writing. IchabodAdTempus (talk) 00:52, 15 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Removed this pointless sentence. Day Creature (talk) 16:22, 15 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Subject: Proposal to clarify the Byzantine role as a "Co-belligerent" rather than a "Crusader State" The Text: "I suggest a more nuanced classification of the Byzantine Empire's involvement. Historically, the Byzantine goals were fundamentally different from the Crusaders' ideological mission. After the defeat at Manzikert (1071), the Empire sought 'Restoratio Imperii' (territorial restoration) rather than a religious crusade. Key evidence of this divergence includes: The Siege of Nicaea (1097): Where the Byzantines conducted secret negotiations with the Seljuks to take the city, specifically to prevent Crusader looting. Strategic Realism: The Byzantines often viewed the Crusaders as a threat to Constantinople, leading to alliances with Muslim powers (e.g., the Byzantine-Ayyubid treaty during the Third Crusade against Barbarossa). I propose adding a note to the infobox or a specific sub-section to distinguish Byzantine 'Imperial Policy' from Crusader 'Religious Zeal.' Sources: Komnene, Anna. The Alexiad. Frankopan, Peter. The First Crusade: The Call from the East. Harris, Jonathan. Byzantium and the Crusades."

Clarifyingthe Byzantine role based on primary sources (The Alexiad) and modern scholarship (Peter Frankopan), distinguishing imperial goals from Crusader ideology Kerokerk (talk) 06:19, 29 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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