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To be fair, they both probably didn't exactly go looking for non-offending users, and the units were seemingly marketed towards those likely to be offenders. Not sure if I should add a note about source bias and unreliability in past for politically-charged sources. Basic math is that if 60K users were all gangs, then why so few prosecutions? 47.221.236.73 (talk) 19:53, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@47.221.236.73 because basic math doesn't account for small fishes in the big sea, or maybe users that weren't identifiable AND provably criminal. 89.8.8.63 (talk) 20:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you remove 'In other words, the NCA's arguments for obtaining the warrant was, "if you don't grant this, we could be prosecuted for criminally participating in the hacking of United Kingdom citizens devices."'

That's page 9, when statutory grounds are on page 2, being 'For the purposes of preventing or detecting serious crime':

Like they are the NCA so that would be a massive piss take if they just let serious crimes continue AS SECONDARY to the "international relations" and as further seemingly resulting in a massive data silo to pick through thereafter:

Not really "hacking" is it as Article 8 doesn't cover criminal activities. ~2025-32096-82 (talk) 05:30, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252499373/UK-accused-of-damaging-confidence-by-disclosing-EncroChat-collaboration

even more material

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-67051150 e.g. it suggests the operation endures and rather that 16 firearms, 49 have been seized so far.

Here's some more information about police operations, as reported by the BBC [1]. Maybe this could be included in the article? I assume the police didn't actually crack end-to-end encryption when carrying out their operations, but this point is not particularly clear in the article. Perhaps someone with a knowledge of the subject could clarify the point. Thanks, MidnightBlue (Talk) 12:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]