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Result: Issues have not been addressed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:51, 14 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The assessment by Z1720 fails to account for the Verifiability policy, which only requires inline citations in four cases:

• direct quotations,
• material whose verifiability has been challenged,
• material whose verifiability is likely to be challenged, and
• contentious material about living and recently deceased persons.

Can you give at least one example of a statement that does not fall into one of these four cases? Jc3s5h (talk) 19:24, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jc3s5h: Before those bulleted statements, WP:V says "Each fact or claim in an article must be verifiable. Additionally, four types of information must be accompanied by an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports[b] the material." Therefore, it is not correct that WP:V policy "only requires inline citations in those four cases." Rather, those are four examples of when inline citations would be required.
  

GARs are reviewed against the GA criteria, which states in 3b, "All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose)." I can add citation needed templates to the article in places that are not cited if requested. Z1720 (talk) 20:35, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I would only consider such an effort meaningful if you explain why a passage could reasonably be challenged. Jc3s5h (talk) 23:05, 1 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jc3s5h: There are several uncited statements and explaining how each uncited statement can be challenged is very time consuming. Instead, I am going to add citation needed templates to the article. If an editor thinks a tagged statement doesn't warrant a citation, they can post the statement below and explain why the citation isn't needed. Please note that if an entire paragraph is uncited, only one citation needed template will be placed at the end of the last sentence of the paragraph. Z1720 (talk) 02:45, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  @Z1720: I've addressed one of your missing citations. As for the paragraph starting "Ecliptic coordinates are convenient for specifying positions of Solar System objects...", I think this may actually be original research. I rarely (if ever) have seen ecliptic coordinates used in this way. What they are used for is express pole solutions (spin axis orientation) for small solar system objects, but not their positions in the sky. Renerpho (talk) 03:16, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  I've added one more citation needed tag, to "Most of the major bodies of the Solar System orbit the Sun in nearly the same plane. This is likely due to the way in which the Solar System formed from a protoplanetary disk." This is true, and it shouldn't be terribly difficult to find a source. However, neither of the featured articles Solar System and Formation and evolution of the Solar System actually say this (the latter doesn't even mention the ecliptic), and the same claim in Protoplanetary disk is currently without a source. So it's not entirely trivial. Solar System#Orbits gives the formation of the Solar System as the reason why all planets orbit the Sun counter-clockwise, but not why they all orbit in the same plane. Renerpho (talk) 03:26, 2 May 2026 (UTC) -- Astronomical coordinate systems#Ecliptic system states that "The system is primarily used for computing the positions of planets and other Solar System bodies, as well as defining their orbital elements", but without a citation; and Ecliptic coordinate system says in the lede that "because most planets (except Mercury) and many small Solar System bodies have orbits with only slight inclinations to the ecliptic, using it as the fundamental plane is convenient", but doesn't provide a source for this either, and doesn't specify how it is convenient (this does not mean that it is used to express their positions in ecliptic coordinates). Renerpho (talk) 03:47, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  It may be a while before I can dig into this; my computer glasses are in the lab for lens replacement. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Jc3s5h: To be fair, Z1720 asked in January on the article talk page if the issues warrant a GAR -- and got no response. Renerpho (talk) 03:01, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]