Talk:Count of Hainaut

Numbering of Williams

The counts named William are off by two: "William I" links to William III, "William II" to William IV and so on. (The Counts of Hainaut family tree simply omits I and II rather than renumbering them.) Why is this? Gdr 20:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know. I will look into it. Stijn Calle 16:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that the first William of Hainaut was the third William of Holland, which may account for the misnumbering. I will renumber them. Gdr 10:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hainaut vs Hainault

I believe both Hainaut and Hainault are accepted spellings for this area, but I'm wondering if Hainault should be preferred, in an historical context at least, if not the modern era. Philippa, the queen consort of King Edward III of England, seems to be consistently referred to as "of Hainault" on Wikipedia. Some examples of "Hainault" include Alison Weir's book, "Queen Isabella: Treachery, Adultery,and Murder in Medieval England," which uses the spelling for both Philippa and her father. The famous 19th century Agnes Strickland book, Lives of the Queens, also uses "Hainault" for both Philippa and her father. The Encyclopaedia Britannica prefers "Hainaut" but uses it consistently for Philippa and her father (http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9059685/Philippa-Of-Hainaut). The spelling seems to be just a matter of preference, but I feel that the chosen spelling should be used in all references for clarity purposes. It is very difficult to do research when spelling is inconsistent and Philippa of "Hainault" is descended from the Counts of "Hainaut." WendyB12 03:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The L spelling is an English misunderstanding which never existed in the original name, and this is not an English county. It is common in English contexts, especially in older works, but not when scholars are writing about European Hainaut itself. I would prefer that we don't use it at all, but if we do use it then I think it would be about Philippa and related topics. I know I am answering a very old post, but it seems worth putting this on record.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:26, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Family tree problem

Unfortunately the big family tree image contains a major error at the beginning by making Richilde a daughter of Reginar V. Actually she married his son. It is a big enough mistake that if we can not fix it, then we really need to remove it. Anyone up to making a new version?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 16:55, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The part about Beatrice and Eric XII is also incorrect and should be removed. See Talk:Beatrix of Bavaria#Errors in the literature. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 18:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The image also makes it impossible to see red links and is not digitally accessible Dajasj (talk) 14:25, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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