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Also see should include Roadman, a distant relative of the chav, the Roadman generally an aggressive middle-class child who desperately wants to take part in chav culture. The Roadman is distinct from a Chav in choosing this lifestyle where as a Chav is more of a true-blood of scum.

i come from newcastle, and a charv (sorry i cant say chav with a straight face) is a term that is totally classless, and should be shown as such on the article. in newcastle as far as i know its used to describe someone who thinks and acts like they are tougher than they are, and not until the recent chav epidemic from the south was it about people wearing burberry. you gotta understand, on the council estate i grew up in in newcastle, cowgate, most of us dress in the way the rest of the country would deem chavish, but we never saw ourselves that way, only the ones amongst us that went around claiming they were 'solid' as we said. but couldnt fight their way out of a wet paper bag. but its defo classless, it can apply to anyone, employed or not, that goes around swinging their arms like a monkey, or carrying carpets/wardrobes as we used to say as kids, thinking they could beat ya up, when they couldn't. the ones that could kick ya head in werent charvers. you wouldn't call viv graeme a charver would ya, or the conroys, or sayerses etc, no, when people talk about some of them, they talk about them with respect. kinda the same way the southerners would with the krays or something. my point is its not just a term for the lower unemployed, it includes the working class and up. case in point is this documentary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs:_The_Demonization_of_the_Working_Class i know its just mentioning the working class, but that probably includes the unemployed. if your talking about just people on benefits, they are not called chavs charvs or otherwise, they are simply known here, as dole wallers. unfortunately i dont see a page on the term dole waller.

The term "roadman" reserves more working-class black inner-city youth, a British extension of Jamaican rudeboy culture. Chav is reserved for working-white youth. They're two distinctive and different culture than shouldn't be lumped into one. 2A02:C7C:9253:E300:3CCE:264C:247E:4DD9 (talk) 01:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. EmilePersaud (talk) 18:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree. GarethBaloney (talk) 22:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree. The associations of the word chav and roadman are completely different. Really the closest association between the two is that Roadman culture integrates a lot of elements from the previous chav culture ImmyChan (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should a link to Michael Carroll (lottery winner), the self-proclaimed "King of Chavs", be included in the "See also" section? - OpalYosutebito (talk) 04:36, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can that get deleted. 48 years living in Ontario close to or in Toronto and not once has that term been used. At best it would be a very localized/neighbourhood slang, but Toronto and/or Ontario do not have an equivalent of what this description describing a “chav” is 2607:FEA8:5199:C800:95E5:F45C:B959:D1B8 (talk) 18:31, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Yup bro has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 November 20 § Yup bro until a consensus is reached. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:50, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]