Talk:Bill Haley

Date of Birth

I find DoB listed as 6 July 1924. Where does the listed date come from?--(talk)BozMo 20:59, 14 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

The 1924 birthdate is erroneous. I know his son and can confirm that Haley was born in 1925. 23skidoo 17:54, 23 October 2004 (UTC)[reply]
1925 is the right year of his birthdate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.212.176.26 (talk) 17:33, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification needed

"John W. Haley, his eldest son, wrote Sound and Glory, a biography of Haley,[10] and had another child, Sharyn, with his first wife, Dorothy Crowe." This needs clarification that, I presume, Dorothy's first two children with Bill were girls, and John was a son of his second or third wife. Even so, it sounds like the Greek tragedy of Phaedra. --01:46, 4 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugh7 (talk • contribs) 01:47, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Death and legacy

The death and legacy is way way too long. I don't think we need more than three sentences, tops, about his erratic behavior at the end of his life. That's not what makes him notable, and most of our sources don't mention it. Kendall-K1 (talk) 18:20, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Using liner notes for sources

The section about the Saddlemen relies on uncredited liner notes from a 1955 album. This is dubious at best. For one thing this makes the article (before I corrected it) say Rocket 88 was recorded for Keystone which is instantly verifiable as wrong. I believe online sources show the Keystone recordings were actually made in 1950, and I believe the first Saddlemen recording to be released was actually on Atlantic Records but I need to confirm with sources I don't have easy access to right now which came first, Atlantic or Keystone. 136.159.160.5 (talk) 17:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article title

@EggOfReason: Does this page have the best title, or is it the primary topic for the term Bill Haley and thus worthy of being moved back to the base name? Over 99% of page views seem to be for the musician, and external searches give similar results. Certes (talk) 16:32, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Certes: Looks like it was unnecessary to move the musician and add him under the disambig. I've cleaned it back up now. Thanks for the notice! –eggofreason(talk · contribs) 20:49, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Halley

I don't know if there's a place for this in the article, but it is rather common to see the early 20th century songwriter Bill Halley (who wrote Miss the Mississippi and You) mistaken for this Bill Haley. Aside from seeing misspelling of the surname on songwriter credits, I've seen Bill Haley of Rock Around the Clock fame outright being called the songwriter of Miss the Mississippi and You. Again, not quite sure how to approach, especially as the other Bill Halley at present has no Wikipedia article. 23skidoo (talk) 18:20, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • To add to my earlier note, at present Bill Halley redirects here, which is fine (since it's a common misspelling for Haley in any regard), but if someone adds a wikilink to the Mississippi and You songwriter's name at any point, then they'll be taken here. 23skidoo (talk) 18:09, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

concerns about autobiography?

"In 1980, Haley began working on an autobiography entitled The Life and Times of Bill Haley, but died after completing only 100 pages. The work is registered with the U.S. Copyright Office, but has yet to be released to the public. According to Gina Haley, Bill's youngest daughter, her father managed to complete the book on his career, and the manuscript is in possession of the Bill Haley estate.[citation needed]" i cant find a single credible source mentioning this. maybe this should be removed from the article. Callowwing (talk) 08:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Date of infobox image.

The image is overwhelmingly unlikely to be from 1974. It is cropped from an Anefo image which is a photograph of a photograph of Haley and his then-wife. Their clothes match 1950s fashion, NOT 1970s fashion. In photographs of him that are actually from 1974, his appearance does not match this image which more resembles him in the 1950s. In fact, I think the image is actually from 1957 as this image from Getty Images dated to 1957 is extremely similar to the "1974" infobox image and thus is likely to be from the same photoshoot. So, I would change it to "Haley in 1957" and also suggest the "Bill Haley (1974).jpg" is renamed to "Bill Haley (1957).jpg", however technically it would be considered "unsourced" to just make the change without proper reasoning, so I ask for permission and confirmation on this talk page to make the edit. And to top it all off, I'm not even sure the image is actually free or belonging to Anefo since it technically is a derivative work (a photograph of a photograph). If the original image's copyright somehow now belongs to Anefo and thus the CC0 license is validated, we should keep it but rename the date to 1957. But if the original image is in fact non-free, it should be deleted off of Commons and replaced with a truly free alternative (which we have on Commons, this one is a good pick). A Clockwork Potato (talk) 11:31, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

1974 is when the photo of the photo was taken, as you can see in the description at File:Bill Haley met echtgenote, Bestanddeelnr 926-9165.jpg. It also says there that this is "in the late 1950s". It's obviously from the 1957 photoshoot, she's even wearing the same dress. So I say go ahead and make the change. By the way, I'm pretty sure this is a copyright violation. GA-RT-22 (talk) 12:47, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I've made the change to say 1957 rather than 1974 on his infobox. Regarding the copyright status, the photograph (the 1957 original, not the 1974 derivative "photo of the photo") was originally taken by a man named Harry Kerr, as evident by the 1957 Getty images photo from the same photoshoot. However I can't find much information about him. I'm 90% sure the Anefo derivative is a copyvio and so I'm very tempted to replace the infobox image with this free alternative, but the potential copyvio status might not be so (even if unlikely) so I need proper confirmation it is a copyvio. I'll go and take a further look myself to see the status, but if anyone can beat me to it that'd be great. Overall I find it unlikely that Anefo owns the rights to the original image and thus am planning to replace the infobox image if it can be confirmed. A Clockwork Potato (talk) 12:08, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I don't like that alternate image at all. He looks angry and the lazy eye looks sinister. But it would be better than no photo. GA-RT-22 (talk) 14:01, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we could instead crop this image of his band the Comets instead, as Haley has a similarly joyful expression to the current infobox image and is verifiably PD unlike said current infobox image. There are quite a few alternative images from Commons to choose from, the 1958 "angry/sinister" image isn't the only alternative available. A Clockwork Potato (talk) 15:00, 27 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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