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Hello. I am removing the section of the article listing "Notable" uses of Kevin MacLeod's music. This is simply an informal non-encyclopedic list that is completely subjective to the people adding to it. I was going to replace this with a filmography section listing official credits of MacLeod's music in film and such, however I cannot find reliable sources to back up official credits. Lazz_R 18:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The introduction paragraph currently has a seemingly random list of YouTube channels that have used Kevin MacLeod's music. There is no citation for this information, and it seems strange to list channels like this because considering the nature of his work there must be thousands if not tens of thousands of YouTube channels using his music. For that reason I'm removing this information. If you have a problem with this, please let me know on this talk page or my user talk page, and try and find a citation for the information before readding it. —turdas^{talk - contribs} 06:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The page should only list things like feature films and big internet projects to reduce clutter RmationYT (talk) 15:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There is Kevin Macleod's free video (CC BY) showing him [1]. We can use the video's screenshot showing him as an image in the infobox. YouTube is about to remove Creative Commons feature. 36.85.216.196 (talk) 01:00, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done The article currently has an image from this video, thank you for mentioning it. Consigned (talk) 15:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there is an edit war in progress about including a 2024 release with YouTubers Cary and Michael Huang who are the creators of Battle for Dream Island (BFDI), sourced to Kevin MacLeod's website https://incompetech.com/wordpress/2024/04/first-ever-merch/. It is being frequently removed due to WP:BFDI, but aside from the BFDI issue, I don't think this content merits mention, as it's a trivial mention on the subject's own website. Per WP:NOTEVERYTHING, Wikipedia should not include every true fact or detail, but rather a summary of accepted knowledge based on WP:WEIGHT. Since this release has not been reported in WP:SECONDARY sources, I do not believe it merits inclusion.
Pinging involved users Dude Esterbrook Bluerasberry Jurta 66.65.58.236. Consigned (talk) 15:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, cool to include but just need to cite an appropriate source. Wikipedia is not a newspaper so we cite the journalism, not create the journalism. Ask if questions. Bluerasberry (talk) 21:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

imo if two important milestones of his are related to something Wikipedia isn’t allowed to make a page about, it should still be written down tbh. like it’s more about the person not the content RmationYT (talk) 15:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that WP:BFDI is not why the collaborative album shouldn't be here, but I'd also like to add that I feel that that essay is somewhat misinterpreted. It doesn't say that BFDI shouldn't have a Wikipedia article because it's not good enough, but rather because it's not notable enough. I believe that this will change in time, but more importantly, It doesn't mean that BFDI shouldn't be mentioned when it is relevant. If the album was a more direct part of Kevin MacLeod's discography, it would have no reason not to be included in the article. (I also feel that 10003 Caryhuang's name-meaning should mention Huang's most important work.) MultPod (talk) 18:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After recently rewriting much of this article, I'm not convinced there should not be a Discography section at all. None of the albums/singles have articles, and I'm seeing very few, if any, reliable independent sources discussing any of them. The section is entirely unsourced, and in my mind should be removed entirely. – Aza24 (talk) 18:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A music artist's discography seems to relevent to remove. MultPod (talk) 01:34, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MultPod, could you clarify what you mean? We need reliable sources to establish notability for anything, that includes a musician's discography. Aza24 (talk) 23:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but if a discography section exists, it needs to have consistent standards. MultPod (talk) 00:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can i add the fact that he voices Pan Flute in BFDIA 12, 14 and 17? 181.170.238.243 (talk) 19:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if you can cite a WP:Reliable source which reported this. Bluerasberry (talk) 00:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would this article from his own blog count as a reliable source? https://incompetech.com/wordpress/2025/01/music-acting-animation/ No1fanofthepals (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be possible to continue the discussion on this? I am hoping to reach a consensus on Wikipedia's stance on BFDI within pages such as this one and Tomska, as there have also been recent edit wars on that page for the same reason as well. I think finding a consistent ruling for these situations would help clear up confusion especially if it can be included on the WP:BFDI page as I have been seeing a lot of fans from said community confused on Wikipedia's stance regarding this topic. 2603:8001:E600:2741:84F0:FF67:9112:BA53 (talk) 09:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The consistent recommendation is simply to cite WP:Reliable sources, and to expect removal of any claim which lacks such a citation. The common situation with BFDI and Kevin MacLeod is that audiences like their content but in both cases, despite widespread popularity, they do not attract journalism or reviews.

Check this out though - new article today

• Prichep, Deena (September 25, 2024). "How a catchy tune became the soundtrack to TikTok's silliest videos". npr.org. NPR.

Bluerasberry (talk) 17:23, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked through the "Release with BFDI" discussion above and it seems like it didn't get anywhere so I'm bringing back up the fact that Kevin's work with BFDI is missing from his page for some reason.

First: Kevin has voiced the character Pan Flute in 5 different episodes. As has been discussed with Rosie O'Donnell even if BFDI can't have a page due to lack of notability, if someone's work on BFDI has a source to prove said it work there is no reason not to include it. Here is the source from Kevin's website Incompetech[2] which should work since TomSka's tweets worked as a source for his work as Pineapple.

Second: Kevin worked with Jacknjellify to make a vinyl release of a select few tracks that hold relevancy to the BFDI franchise; "Bops, Famous Ditties & Instrumentals". This should be listed under his discography, especially considering this is the first and so far only time that Kevin has ever released his music in a physical form. Here is two sources from Kevin's website, one from when the vinyl was first announced[3] and one from when it finally released[4]. ZestySourBoy (talk) 04:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

he would need a filmography section which he doesn't have for the pan flute credit Radman the 12th (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The discography has 0 sources cited. Radman the 12th (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The audio clip of Kevin MacLeod has a missing germane word in the captions. The word FREE in royalty free music stuff has been left out and even the grammar is broken. Some retarded AI will scrape the captions and come to incorrect conclusions. I have no idea how captions are generated or corrected.

Idyllic press (talk) 21:29, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See here: English subtitles for MacLeod clip. I had at a go at fixing it—see if it looks correct now. Aza24 (talk) 22:31, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DannyRogers800, glad to see you taking this one. Let me know if I can help in anyway. Some next steps I can see

• More academic sources. As you've seen, the further reading includes two I found at an earlier date; definitely include everything you can from them. There may be a few more out there too; worth a search on google books, archive.org, JSTOR etc.
• Source for which university (see the in-text note if you haven't already). The one there originally that was an interview with him and Green Bay University; be it was explicit about him being an alum. I guess the lack of coverage from both RS and the university itself is that he dropped out (?)
• More on the documentary. I would scrap the Rotton Tomatoes source
• More awards if available
• It would be nice to talk about specific songs more so, but I'm not sure if RS cover that
• A couple more notable examples of his music usage might be warranted, if available in RS

– Aza24 (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support, Aza24. I'll be considering those suggestions, of course. The problem with MacLeod is that, while he is arguably one of the most important musicians of the 21st century, very little has been written about him. The only established sources covering him that I know of are two NYT articles, one NPR article, and the academic sources you found (as a side note, these academic sources are priceless, so I thank you immeasurably for unearthing them). I could not find any more academic articles or book chapters on JSTOR or Google Scholar, but I won't call off the search quite yet. Furthermore, I'm confident that, with time, as books on the history of the internet and social media pile up, MacLeod will be lent more recognition. But that's up to history to decide. DannyRogers800 (talk) 20:19, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Aza24, I've found these interviews with MacLeod ([5] and [6]) that could prove very helpful for expanding the article. While they are primary sources, there are GAs on internet personalities such as PewDiePie and Drew Gooden that make measured use of them. Should I consider using these sources? DannyRogers800 (talk) 13:57, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nice find. I think measured use—particularly if the information is highly relevant—is no issue, as long as they're clearly marked as primary (I like the ‡ citation system for this (or a letter(s) "KM 1" etc)). The main issue is: shaping the article too much around primary sources; as you probably know, the secondary sources should always be the main basis for determining what kind of information is included, and the scope of the article generally.

If you decide to make a second citation system, I would move the Incompetech refs into there.

There are still more secondary (news) refs that can be included [7] [8], more from Gutelle (already cited) and many more sources on the movie. Aza24 (talk) 15:40, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Completely agree, and thank you for the advice! DannyRogers800 (talk) 15:56, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To @DannyRogers800

Someone in Missouri made an edit mentioning that any music that was generated using Ai never got uploaded to incompetech by Kevin Macleod which you got rid of stating that "Removed added info about his AI use: While true, he does still upload some of his AI pieces to Youtube" but instead of simply correcting the lack of missing context that you mentioned you just got rid of what that person typed entirely. Why not perhaps change the text from:

Since 2020, MacLeod has used artificial intelligence, especially Suno AI, to produce music.

To say this instead;

Since 2020, MacLeod has used artificial intelligence, especially Suno AI, to produce music; however, these do not get published to Incompetech. But some of those pieces of music were uploaded to Kevin Macleod's official YouTube channel.

I know it is missing a source at the end but you get the idea. 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘴 𝘚𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘺, 𝗠𝗿𝗗𝗮𝗻𝟭𝟬𝗭𝟵 └[๏ᗜ๏]┘ (talk) 00:51, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @MrDanTheCreative10Z9, thanks for the suggestion. However, I believe the mention of MacLeod's AI use should be kept as concise as possible because secondary sources have not covered it, and so notability cannot be established, strictly speaking. Why, then, am I still devoting a sentence to his use of AI? Because I believe it marks a significant moment in MacLeod's career and has affected his reputation on the internet, whether the media has acknowledged this or not. DannyRogers800 (talk) 05:29, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]